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Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

lovelyLUDWIG said:
the only racism is the way this was posted, so a white chick got jumped, wooowww, watch high school videos on fights and shootings, its mostly black on black because those are the poverty schools, i think thats a way bigger issue to be of discussion, rather than walking in a black dominated mcdonalds. lets not cry about black fear for a single beating caught on tape, what about real dark places. like numorous racial law enforcement beatings, or SLAVERY, come on, that was day after day, for peoples ENTIRE lives.
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^^^ WTF is this? Is this some sort of blind eye approach from the liberal side? So they were beating the living **** out of a stranger because of slavery? And then some other posts I've seen that some how want to say it happened because she was transgender; well how did these two pea-brained hoes know about it? Did the victim's dick fall out of her shorts?
 
Firstly, is may have been because she was transgendered.

SLAVERY, come on, that was day after day, for peoples ENTIRE lives.
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Also... I think anyone from anywhere and any side of the equation would know to /ignore
 
American said:
And then some other posts I've seen that some how want to say it happened because she was transgender; well how did these two pea-brained hoes know about it? Did the victim's dick fall out of her shorts?
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Something is definitely missing from the story. The victim claims to have had a sex change operation.
 
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Taylor said:
Something is definitely missing from the story. The victim claims to have had a sex change operation.
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How is that relevant?
 
American said:
some how want to say it happened because she was transgender; well how did these two pea-brained hoes know about it?
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I have a hunch that the victim either told them or someone else who was there.
 
Taylor said:
I have a hunch that the victim either told them or someone else who was there.
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I think they realized it when his wig fell off in the middle of the beating.
 
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buck said:
I think they realized it when his wig fell off in the middle of the beating.
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According to what the victim said, they knew before the fight broke out:

"They said, 'That's a dude, that's a dude and she's in the female bathroom,' " said Chrissy Lee Polis, 22, who said she stopped at the Rosedale restaurant to use the restroom. "They spit in my face."
 
I find it hilarious and sad that if this was a white neighborhood and a black transgender got beat up..all of the defenders of this vile low life crap would be all indignant screaming RACISTS and HOMOPHOBES scumbag right wing skinheads.
Lets get this right ok...white neighborhood black neighborhood whoever does this is a scumbag...two on 1 who obviously cant or wont defend herself...they punch and kick leave and comeback and do it again OVER AND OVER while males stand around and take videos and do nothing...it was a HATE CRIME if there ever was one...maybe a DOUBLE hate crime...one because she was white and 2 because he was a transgender...whoever is trying to defend these scumbags needs to get some realism in their life
 
Taylor said:
According to what the victim said, they knew before the fight broke out:

"They said, 'That's a dude, that's a dude and she's in the female bathroom,' " said Chrissy Lee Polis, 22, who said she stopped at the Rosedale restaurant to use the restroom. "They spit in my face."
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The victim contradicted himself in the video posted just a little bit earlier in the thread where he was being interviewed about the incident.

In that video the victim stated that they spit in his face after they accused him of talking to one of the black girl's boyfriends.

In the video of the fight, you can hear a guy say that's a man, shortly after the wig comes off. I would hazard a guess this was probably the first that they realized it.

I was actually under the same impression as you, but not so much anymore. I think the media may have this story a bit wrong and may be misquiting by mistake.
 
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buck said:
The victim contradicted himself in the video posted just a little bit earlier in the thread where he was being interviewed about the incident.

In that video the victim stated that they spit in his face after they accused him of talking to one of the black girl's boyfriends.

In the video of the fight, you can hear a guy say that's a man, shortly after the wig comes off. I would hazard a guess this was probably the first that they realized it.
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yes, there's a lot of conflicting testimony, so it's almost not even worth speculating. The account provided by the victim in the police report also conflicts with the 'That's a dude, that's a dude and she's in the female bathroom' claim - saying that a verbal fight took place on the way to the bathroom that turned physical (making it sound like nobody actually went into the bathroom).

The guy who took the video (who is the one that says "that's a man") claims it started after the attackers asked the victim to use the men's room instead - making it sound like the verbal fight happened in the bathroom and the rest after the victim came out. He also claimed that "he still had his male parts."

The victim was also apparently drunk at the time this occurred, so it's not clear how reliable any recollection is.

buck said:
I was actually under the same impression as you, but not so much anymore. I think the media may have this story a bit wrong and may be misquiting by mistake.
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The media has been awful in reporting this story. Lots of places have the details wrong, some of the UK writeups even claim that nobody lifted a finger to help the victim.
 
buck said:
I think they realized it when his wig fell off in the middle of the beating.
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You are being very disrespectful with the pronouns in this thread, you need to call this person by who they are, not what you think they are.
 
Your Star said:
You are being very disrespectful with the pronouns in this thread, you need to call this person by who they are, not what you think they are.
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Why, did they somehow develop surgery to change the y chromosome to an X? If not, he is a he. Couldn't care less what he wants to refer to himself as or what you think he should be called. Removing a pe*** doesn't change that.
 
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yes, there's a lot of conflicting testimony, so it's almost not even worth speculating. The account provided by the victim in the police report also conflicts with the 'That's a dude, that's a dude and she's in the female bathroom' claim - saying that a verbal fight took place on the way to the bathroom that turned physical (making it sound like nobody actually went into the bathroom).

The guy who took the video (who is the one that says "that's a man") claims it started after the attackers asked the victim to use the men's room instead - making it sound like the verbal fight happened in the bathroom and the rest after the victim came out. He also claimed that "he still had his male parts."

The victim was also apparently drunk at the time this occurred, so it's not clear how reliable any recollection is.


The media has been awful in reporting this story. Lots of places have the details wrong, some of the UK writeups even claim that nobody lifted a finger to help the victim.
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So it seems. I have no idea anymore. Guess we'll have to wait to see how everythign shakes out - at least before i'm certain either way. Regardless. The two perpetrators should be charged, and if it is determined that the actions fit, hate crime charges should be brought about. at least IMO.
 
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buck said:
Why, did they somehow develop surgery to change the y chromosome to an X? If not, he is a he. Couldn't care less what he wants to refer to himself as or what you think he should be called. Removing a pe*** doesn't change that.
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I don't think you know the difference between sex and gender. In fact, I don't think you really understand sex either. Ever heard of "sex reassignment surgery"?:roll:
 
buck said:
Why, did they somehow develop surgery to change the y chromosome to an X? If not, he is a he. Couldn't care less what he wants to refer to himself as or what you think he should be called. Removing a pe*** doesn't change that.
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Gender isn't about chromosomes, and you need to call people for what they are, not what you wish they are.
 
Taylor said:
Where do you get that from: "Most places have policy to not get involved in situations like this both due to risk of employees and risk of possible legal liability(ie getting sued)."? That's just a simple statement of fact, it provides neither support for or against "protecting McDonalds."
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You're just repeating what redress already stated.

#1 The McDonalds policy is to protect McDonalds corporation from being sued.
#2 To cover their ass so that they are not personally liable if someone pursues good samartian acts and gets hurt. It's not for someone elses personal safety, that would be stupid, someone was CLEARLY being physical beat to ****.

In both cases these are a corporate policy to protect a corporation from some money damages. Yet here was a real person, being physically damaged, and you're going to go with McDonalds corporate CYA policy over what's clear and present physical danger to that girl/guy?

And for personal safety concerns, it was two ****ing girls and some old lady had the balls to step up. Gesus christ people. Get the girl, drag her into the employees only area, wait for cops. Profit (in terms of humanity). All this crap about transgender is irreleavnt.
 
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Taylor said:
I have a hunch that the victim either told them or someone else who was there.
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She walked in to use the bathroom, who would have told? And then so what; she deserved the beating?
 
theplaydrive said:
I don't think you know the difference between sex and gender. In fact, I don't think you really understand sex either. Ever heard of "sex reassignment surgery"?:roll:
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Couldn't care less. He was born a he and will always be a he or, at best, a transexual female. This even if he legally sought to change his gender with the courts - which you have no idea wether he did or not.
 
buck said:
Couldn't care less. He was born a he and will always be a he or, at best, a transexual female. This even if he legally sought to change his gender with the courts - which you have no idea wether he did or not.
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Then you just confirmed you don't know the difference between sex and gender. Gender can be chosen and sex can arguably be changed, depending on your definition.
 
theplaydrive said:
Then you just confirmed you don't know the difference between sex and gender. Gender can be chosen and sex can arguably be changed, depending on your definition.
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and he is still a he.

Unless he changed his gender with the courts, assuming that's even allowed in MD - which many states do not - he is even a he in the eyes of the law.

He can be an effeminate male with an inside out pen**, but a male he still is.
 
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buck said:
and he is still a he.

Unless he changed his gender with the courts - assuming that's even allowed in MD - which many states do not - he is even a he in the eyes of the law.
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Yes it is allowed in every state, and she has had SRS which means she had her name changed, and her sex changed with the state. You have no excuse to not call her a her.
 
Mach said:
In both cases these are a corporate policy to protect a corporation from some money damages. Yet here was a real person, being physically damaged, and you're going to go with McDonalds corporate CYA policy over what's clear and present physical danger to that girl/guy?
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You're jumping to conclusions. Simply stating what the company policy is does not mean that you agree with the policy. Redress was offering that as an explanation for why those particular employees may not have acted - not how someone should or shouldn't act in that situation.
 
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