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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    The victim contradicted himself in the video posted just a little bit earlier in the thread where he was being interviewed about the incident.

    In that video the victim stated that they spit in his face after they accused him of talking to one of the black girl's boyfriends.

    In the video of the fight, you can hear a guy say that's a man, shortly after the wig comes off. I would hazard a guess this was probably the first that they realized it.
    yes, there's a lot of conflicting testimony, so it's almost not even worth speculating. The account provided by the victim in the police report also conflicts with the 'That's a dude, that's a dude and she's in the female bathroom' claim - saying that a verbal fight took place on the way to the bathroom that turned physical (making it sound like nobody actually went into the bathroom).

    The guy who took the video (who is the one that says "that's a man") claims it started after the attackers asked the victim to use the men's room instead - making it sound like the verbal fight happened in the bathroom and the rest after the victim came out. He also claimed that "he still had his male parts."

    The victim was also apparently drunk at the time this occurred, so it's not clear how reliable any recollection is.

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I was actually under the same impression as you, but not so much anymore. I think the media may have this story a bit wrong and may be misquiting by mistake.
    The media has been awful in reporting this story. Lots of places have the details wrong, some of the UK writeups even claim that nobody lifted a finger to help the victim.

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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I think they realized it when his wig fell off in the middle of the beating.
    You are being very disrespectful with the pronouns in this thread, you need to call this person by who they are, not what you think they are.
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    You are being very disrespectful with the pronouns in this thread, you need to call this person by who they are, not what you think they are.
    Why, did they somehow develop surgery to change the y chromosome to an X? If not, he is a he. Couldn't care less what he wants to refer to himself as or what you think he should be called. Removing a pe*** doesn't change that.
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    yes, there's a lot of conflicting testimony, so it's almost not even worth speculating. The account provided by the victim in the police report also conflicts with the 'That's a dude, that's a dude and she's in the female bathroom' claim - saying that a verbal fight took place on the way to the bathroom that turned physical (making it sound like nobody actually went into the bathroom).

    The guy who took the video (who is the one that says "that's a man") claims it started after the attackers asked the victim to use the men's room instead - making it sound like the verbal fight happened in the bathroom and the rest after the victim came out. He also claimed that "he still had his male parts."

    The victim was also apparently drunk at the time this occurred, so it's not clear how reliable any recollection is.


    The media has been awful in reporting this story. Lots of places have the details wrong, some of the UK writeups even claim that nobody lifted a finger to help the victim.
    So it seems. I have no idea anymore. Guess we'll have to wait to see how everythign shakes out - at least before i'm certain either way. Regardless. The two perpetrators should be charged, and if it is determined that the actions fit, hate crime charges should be brought about. at least IMO.
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Why, did they somehow develop surgery to change the y chromosome to an X? If not, he is a he. Couldn't care less what he wants to refer to himself as or what you think he should be called. Removing a pe*** doesn't change that.
    I don't think you know the difference between sex and gender. In fact, I don't think you really understand sex either. Ever heard of "sex reassignment surgery"?

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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Why, did they somehow develop surgery to change the y chromosome to an X? If not, he is a he. Couldn't care less what he wants to refer to himself as or what you think he should be called. Removing a pe*** doesn't change that.
    Gender isn't about chromosomes, and you need to call people for what they are, not what you wish they are.
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

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    I don't think you know the difference between sex and gender.
    It all depends on who you ask.

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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Where do you get that from: "Most places have policy to not get involved in situations like this both due to risk of employees and risk of possible legal liability(ie getting sued)."? That's just a simple statement of fact, it provides neither support for or against "protecting McDonalds."
    You're just repeating what redress already stated.

    #1 The McDonalds policy is to protect McDonalds corporation from being sued.
    #2 To cover their ass so that they are not personally liable if someone pursues good samartian acts and gets hurt. It's not for someone elses personal safety, that would be stupid, someone was CLEARLY being physical beat to ****.

    In both cases these are a corporate policy to protect a corporation from some money damages. Yet here was a real person, being physically damaged, and you're going to go with McDonalds corporate CYA policy over what's clear and present physical danger to that girl/guy?

    And for personal safety concerns, it was two ****ing girls and some old lady had the balls to step up. Gesus christ people. Get the girl, drag her into the employees only area, wait for cops. Profit (in terms of humanity). All this crap about transgender is irreleavnt.
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I have a hunch that the victim either told them or someone else who was there.
    She walked in to use the bathroom, who would have told? And then so what; she deserved the beating?
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I don't think you know the difference between sex and gender. In fact, I don't think you really understand sex either. Ever heard of "sex reassignment surgery"?
    Couldn't care less. He was born a he and will always be a he or, at best, a transexual female. This even if he legally sought to change his gender with the courts - which you have no idea wether he did or not.

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