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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Isn't it harsh to snatch away his rightwing christian racist victimhood so sharply?
    Standard conservative procedure is to blow anything said to the most extreme possible interpretation. For example, if I mention a case of racism against a black person without also explicitly mentioning that there are black people racist against whites, I clearly must absolutely mean that there's no such thing as being racist against white people. If I mention support for a minor tax on some random aspect of life, I must also clearly support raising taxes to 100% on all income for all of the population, creating a pure socialist/communist/fascist/etc country. Support for any new regulation must indicate that I clearly always support all regulation over every aspect of every person's life, down to what they have for breakfast. There's no middle ground.

    Conversely, this rule does not actually apply to conservatives. Just because conservatives believe in "smaller government" does not mean they also believe in "zero government," a complete disbanding of the United States as an entity and creating pure anarchy. That's just ridiculous, dishonest liberal "debating!"
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    I vow, here and now, to NEVER frequent McDonalds again. Years ago, I scratched Walmart off my list. Today, I scratch off Mickey Deez. You've gone Black, McDonalds, and you've lost this White customer, forever.
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If the motivation for the attack was because the person was white, it would be a hate crime.
    likewise for sexual orientation.....
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    likewise for sexual orientation.....
    Although I don't agree with some peoples idea of sexual orientation but that said, no one has a license to assault a person to a inch of their life, especially when their down.
    Last edited by deltabtry; 04-23-11 at 09:46 PM.

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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    likewise for sexual orientation.....
    And gender identity.
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Do you really believe that if it had been two white girls kicking a black girl on the floor the black employees would have just watched?

    McDonald's may have a policy about getting involved but I think employees could have at done a little more than watch. Would love to hear McDonald's response.
    As someone who has worked retail, non-intervention is drilled into your head on day one in most places. I have seen terrible things happen, from people come into the store and crap on the carpet, to people just stealing things and walking out the door to an outright brawl (J.C. Penny, you so classy).

    As an employee, you are never allowed to intervene. Even touching a customer, for any reason, is the highest taboo imaginable.

    I think it's ridiculous just to look at the color of these people's skin and assume you entirely understand their motivations. When I saw a white cop beat and taze a black teenager at a McDonald's because he thought she short changed him (she didn't) I didn't think "he's racist" I thought "he's an asshole."
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    As someone who has worked retail, non-intervention is drilled into your head on day one in most places. I have seen terrible things happen, from people come into the store and crap on the carpet, to people just stealing things and walking out the door to an outright brawl (J.C. Penny, you so classy).

    As an employee, you are never allowed to intervene. Even touching a customer, for any reason, is the highest taboo imaginable.

    I think it's ridiculous just to look at the color of these people's skin and assume you entirely understand their motivations. When I saw a white cop beat and taze a black teenager at a McDonald's because he thought she short changed him (she didn't) I didn't think "he's racist" I thought "he's an asshole."
    Race had nothing to do with this, it was the person's gender identity, and atleast one of the workers didn't do anything because he thought the lady deserved it.
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Most places have policy to not get involved in situations like this both due to risk of employees and risk of possible legal liability(ie getting sued). Assuming racism is just stupid when other factors are more likely.
    Holy crap Redress! Are you for real?

    Nobody would have sued any person for stepping in to protect this woman.

    McDonalds employees could have locked her a back room and called 911.

    Instead they just stood there and did nothing to help her.
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    As a side question for all the parents here

    If a male transvestite went into the womans washroom where your daughter which your daughter was in and someone came out saying there is a man in the womans washroom what you you do?
    Not a parent, but I do look out for my younger cousins and my GF's younger cousins when they visit.

    I would walk in, ask the person what they were doing, upon finding out they were TG I would apologize and slink out in shame and annoyed at the ignorance of the person who came out and spouted off crap without having any idea what they were talking about.

    Also, a transvestite and someone who is transgendered are COMPLETELY different. I'm going to assume you meant trangendered, not a male who simply dresses in women's clothes but has no real want to be a woman.
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    Re: Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Holy crap Redress! Are you for real?

    Nobody would have sued any person for stepping in to protect this woman.

    McDonalds employees could have locked her a back room and called 911.

    Instead they just stood there and did nothing to help her.
    You would be incredibly surprised how many people I know who have been fired for doing something just like that...
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