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    Re: Farms Charged With Human Trafficking

    You'd just think that some billionaire would read stuff like this. Make a few calls. And make the problem go away. If they would do stuff like that I wouldn't hate them so much.

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    Re: Farms Charged With Human Trafficking

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    For those who say that slavery is a thing of the past, and no longer exists, I submit this thread as exhibit "A".

    For those who say that business need not be regulated at all, I submit this thread as exhibit "A".

    For those asking why we still need unions, I submit this thread as exhibit "A".

    For those who believe that corporations have the right to be considered as "people" under the law, I submit this thread as exhibit "A". There is nothing human in nature with this. It is about as unhuman as can be.

    For those who believe that ONLY market solutions are the correct ones, I submit this thread as exhibit "A". Here is a market solution. Do you like what you see?

    For those who believe there need be no laws which cripple corporate productivity, I submit this thread as exhibit "A".

    Finally, for those wondering why, from this day on, I will never again buy a Del Monte product, I submit this thread as exhibit "A".

    Article is here.
    This is an example of criminal activity. It's also an indication that what regulation we have is working. They were caught. There is a difference between regulation and over-regulation...that's the thin line we always walk.

    This has nothing to do with needing unions -- unless you think we ought to unionize the slave trade.

    And re DelMonte? I'm with you.
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    Re: Farms Charged With Human Trafficking

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Corporations are formed to insulate from liability.
    I was thinking about this the other day, and I agree with you. Since it's such a nice perk, I suggest we consider a special tax on corporations -- having nothing to do with their gross profit and everything to do with their gross income...in addition to corporate income tax, of course.
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    Re: Farms Charged With Human Trafficking

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I was thinking about this the other day, and I agree with you. Since it's such a nice perk, I suggest we consider a special tax on corporations -- having nothing to do with their gross profit and everything to do with their gross income...in addition to corporate income tax, of course.
    And without loopholes, which, BTW, enabled GE to pay zero taxes this year.
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    Re: Farms Charged With Human Trafficking

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    For those who say that slavery is a thing of the past, and no longer exists, I submit this thread as exhibit "A".

    For those who say that business need not be regulated at all, I submit this thread as exhibit "A".

    For those asking why we still need unions, I submit this thread as exhibit "A".

    For those who believe that corporations have the right to be considered as "people" under the law, I submit this thread as exhibit "A". There is nothing human in nature with this. It is about as unhuman as can be.

    For those who believe that ONLY market solutions are the correct ones, I submit this thread as exhibit "A". Here is a market solution. Do you like what you see?

    For those who believe there need be no laws which cripple corporate productivity, I submit this thread as exhibit "A".

    Finally, for those wondering why, from this day on, I will never again buy a Del Monte product, I submit this thread as exhibit "A".

    Article is here.
    Are you high?

    These people broke the laws, it has nothing to do with business regulation.
    I feel dumber just reading that nonsense.
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    Re: Farms Charged With Human Trafficking

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I was thinking about this the other day, and I agree with you. Since it's such a nice perk, I suggest we consider a special tax on corporations -- having nothing to do with their gross profit and everything to do with their gross income...in addition to corporate income tax, of course.
    Regardless of how you tax a corporation, it is the consumer who pays it with increased prices on products. You might as well pay it directly yourself, and cut corporations out of the government loop of freebies, that you also pay for.

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    Re: Farms Charged With Human Trafficking

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    Regardless of how you tax a corporation, it is the consumer who pays it with increased prices on products. You might as well pay it directly yourself, and cut corporations out of the government loop of freebies, that you also pay for.
    I don't have a problem with that, actually. The market will "speak" as to how much of a tax like that can be passed along and how much will come out of stockholder dividends, expense accounts, CEO salaries, and the myriad expenses that go into a corporation's bottom line. That limitation of liability is huge -- why should corporations not pay a special fee for the privilege?
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    Re: Farms Charged With Human Trafficking

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't have a problem with that, actually. The market will "speak" as to how much of a tax like that can be passed along and how much will come out of stockholder dividends, expense accounts, CEO salaries, and the myriad expenses that go into a corporation's bottom line. That limitation of liability is huge -- why should corporations not pay a special fee for the privilege?
    Problem is Maggie, the stockholder, etc. are not going to experience any loss of profits. We see that in big oil. They just raise prices to cover the tax, or find a loophole to dodge the tax.

    You don't tax corporations, in order to get them off the government dole. To make a seperation between corporate & state. This will end lobbyists, end taxpayers paying their way, end corporate wars, raise consumer awareness, take the cap off lawsuits, stop bail outs, bonuses, incentives, and corporate aid of any kind ~ ie. end the free lunch & make them stand on their own two feet, instead of your shoulders. That is a big slice of the budget pie, trillions in fact (iraq). And as corporations become more competitive, this will allow more community sized businesses to thrive, create jobs & tax revenue.
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    Re: Farms Charged With Human Trafficking

    Let me first say that there isn’t much information available on this issue so people need to let the facts unfold before they rush to judgments one way or another.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    For those asking why we still need unions, I submit this thread as exhibit "A".
    Get real. This has nothing to do with unions.


    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    For those who believe that corporations have the right to be considered as "people" under the law, I submit this thread as exhibit "A". There is nothing human in nature with this. It is about as unhuman as can be.
    Again, this story has nothing to do with the corporate personhood debate.


    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    For those who believe that ONLY market solutions are the correct ones, I submit this thread as exhibit "A". Here is a market solution. Do you like what you see?
    Get real. Your logic is whack. This is like saying it is a “market solution” to sell babies into prostitution. If it ain’t legal it ain’t a market solution and for you to imply otherwise is dishonest.


    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    For those who believe there need be no laws which cripple corporate productivity, I submit this thread as exhibit "A".
    What the hell does this really mean? Do you just make **** up to hype up the drama? I know you don’t tend to your threads so I don’t expect you to bother explaining anything but you are really out there with the “we need an American revolution” crap considering the lack of facts we have at this time.

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    Re: Farms Charged With Human Trafficking

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This is an example of criminal activity. It's also an indication that what regulation we have is working. They were caught. There is a difference between regulation and over-regulation...that's the thin line we always walk.

    This has nothing to do with needing unions -- unless you think we ought to unionize the slave trade.

    And re DelMonte? I'm with you.
    I am responding to this because of the reference to "criminal activity" and the facts. If any prosecution of the involved Corporations, it well be at a civil misdemeanor level. If a Corporation is convicted of a felony, it loses its charter. This is reality. It will be a civil prosecution with a large fine and everybody will go home. Special law for the Corporate class. Feel sumpin' slippin'?

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