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    Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem - The Washington Post

    Despite growing concerns about the country’s long-term fiscal problems and an intensifying debate in Washington about how to deal with them, Americans strongly oppose some of the major remedies under consideration, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

    The survey finds that Americans prefer to keep Medicare just the way it is. Most also oppose cuts in Medicaid and the defense budget. More than half say they are against small, across-the-board tax increases combined with modest reductions in Medicare and Social Security benefits. Only President Obama’s call to raise tax rates on the wealthiest Americans enjoys solid support.
    Oh, the fickle American public...

    I've been saying this for awhile now. Maybe it's time to stop blaming the government for everything and start being introspective about ourselves, the People. Our government is only as competent/effective as the electorate that chooses them.
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Breaking News...

    America wants "spending cuts" but doesn't want anything specific cut, especially anything that directly benefits them, and are all for someone ELSE being taxed more money.

    This is why its going to take some actual leaders in the white house and congress to essentially get done what has to be done for the future of this country despite it likely costing them their jobs at the next election cycle. We need significant cuts, across the board, with reform to our various entitlement programs.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Let's get rid of the entire DoD. Okay now where do we cut the rest of the $2.4T? And while we're at it, let's amend the Constitution to remove "common defence" from the language. That way we'll be sure to never allocate another dime to that requirement.

    Okay liberals, your turn.
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Let's get rid of the entire DoD. Okay now where do we cut the rest of the $2.4T? And while we're at it, let's amend the Constitution to remove "common defence" from the language. That way we'll be sure to never allocate another dime to that requirement.

    Okay liberals, your turn.
    Raise taxes. We don't have a spending problem. We have a revenue problem.
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Raise taxes. We don't have a spending problem. We have a revenue problem.
    That's a ridiculous statement. The government spends way too much now, wants to spend even more, can't properly account for what is spent now... and your solution is to justtax people more?

    Are you one of those liberal who clings to the proven false belief that all you have to do to solve the problem is tax rich people more?

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Breaking News...

    America wants "spending cuts" but doesn't want anything specific cut, especially anything that directly benefits them, and are all for someone ELSE being taxed more money.

    This is why its going to take some actual leaders in the white house and congress to essentially get done what has to be done for the future of this country despite it likely costing them their jobs at the next election cycle. We need significant cuts, across the board, with reform to our various entitlement programs.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    That's a ridiculous statement. The government spends way too much now, wants to spend even more, can't properly account for what is spent now... and your solution is to just tax people more?
    Yes.

    The United States ranks 29 of 34 OECD countries in level of taxation and we're below our historical level of taxation as a percentage of GDP. The most obvious and easiest solution to our deficit problem is raising taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Are you one of those liberal who clings to the proven false belief that all you have to do to solve the problem is tax rich people more?
    Nothing of the sort has been proven. In fact, the opposite is true. The rich have seen their share of the national income increase and their rate of taxation decrease in recent years. While we may not be able to solve the deficit problem entirely by taxing them more, taxing them more will go a long way toward the solution.
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    There are but two sides to the ledger and both must be dealt with. We do need more revenue. We do need spending cuts.
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Yes.

    The United States ranks 29 of 34 OECD countries in level of taxation and we're below our historical level of taxation as a percentage of GDP. The most obvious and easiest solution to our deficit problem is raising taxes.



    Nothing of the sort has been proven. In fact, the opposite is true. The rich have seen their share of the national income increase and their rate of taxation decrease in recent years. While we may not be able to solve the deficit problem entirely by taxing them more, taxing them more will go a long way toward the solution.
    Which is why we became the empowered populace in the history of mankind. Thank you.

    How many times do you have to see this fail before you guys learn? Socialism fails because you eventually run out of other people's money to spend.

    Raise taxes and watch unemployment skyrocket to 20+ percent, which is common elsewhere in the world.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian
    That's a ridiculous statement. The government spends way too much now, wants to spend even more, can't properly account for what is spent now... and your solution is to just tax people more?
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Yes.

    The United States ranks 29 of 34 OECD countries in level of taxation and we're below our historical level of taxation as a percentage of GDP. The most obvious and easiest solution to our deficit problem is raising taxes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian
    Are you one of those liberal who clings to the proven false belief that all you have to do to solve the problem is tax rich people more?
    Nothing of the sort has been proven. In fact, the opposite is true. The rich have seen their share of the national income increase and their rate of taxation decrease in recent years. While we may not be able to solve the deficit problem entirely by taxing them more, taxing them more will go a long way toward the solution.
    No... it won't.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059420007
    A new Tax Day study showed that if Washington wanted to balance the budget using tax increases alone, rates would have to more than double across the board -- including on the middle class -- to keep up with federal spending.
    Just taxing the rich will NOT solve the problem, not go a long way to solving it. Across the board means EVERYONE, including the middle class and poor.

    If you have some credible evidence proving it will. feel free to post it.

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