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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    interesting read... thanks for posting. Personally, I'm not generally one to subscribe to the belief that if we simply stick out heads in the sand, the problem will go away. That assumes that spending remains as it is, without significantly increasing. Not likely under Obama.
    I would agree. Now is a good time to make drastic cuts, but realize that there is an opportunity to raise revenues a bit if necessary to get the budget balanced in the long run.


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    On everyone then, and not just the wealthy.
    Even liberal NPR sees that a big part of the problem is with those who pay nothing.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I disagree. We need to do both and we need to do both now. To place us in a straightjacket and pretend that one is holier than the others is a step towards budgetary failure.
    we can do both, but one needs to be focused on more then the other.

    massive cuts in spending, not massive hikes in taxation is what is needed.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I would agree. Now is a good time to make drastic cuts, but realize that there is an opportunity to raise revenues a bit if necessary to get the budget balanced in the long run.




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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

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    Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem - The Washington Post



    Oh, the fickle American public...

    I've been saying this for awhile now. Maybe it's time to stop blaming the government for everything and start being introspective about ourselves, the People. Our government is only as competent/effective as the electorate that chooses them.
    There's always been a clear disconnect aong the public. We see it here and we see it in health care reform.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    I really dislike polls.

    However it is amazing to see, that republicans all chest thump about "the people want this, the people want that, the people dislike this, it's being rammed down their throats...."

    Then when polls say the people want something they dont want... Then "the people" are what? Stupid? Misguided? Or when republicans refer to "the people" are they really just referring to their supporters.... I just wanna get that clear...

    The only polls republicans like are obamas approval ratings and the approval ratings of his health care bill...

    All other polls are "invalid"

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I really dislike polls.

    However it is amazing to see, that republicans all chest thump about "the people want this, the people want that, the people dislike this, it's being rammed down their throats...."

    Then when polls say the people want something they dont want... Then "the people" are what? Stupid? Misguided? Or when republicans refer to "the people" are they really just referring to their supporters.... I just wanna get that clear...

    The only polls republicans like are obamas approval ratings and the approval ratings of his health care bill...

    All other polls are "invalid"
    Polls are purely at the mercy of those whom are polled.

    If I walk into Death Row and take a poll on the death penalty, it might not be a pure reflection of public sentiment.

    Much like the American media seldom ventures outside of the northeast when conducting their polls.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Polls are purely at the mercy of those whom are polled.

    If I walk into Death Row and take a poll on the death penalty, it might not be a pure reflection of public sentiment.

    Much like the American media seldom ventures outside of the northeast when conducting their polls.
    There's also selective reading, as jetboggieman points out.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Polls are purely at the mercy of those whom are polled.

    If I walk into Death Row and take a poll on the death penalty, it might not be a pure reflection of public sentiment.

    Much like the American media seldom ventures outside of the northeast when conducting their polls.
    Got any evidence for that assertion?
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    I also dislike polls, especially ones where it indicates people want their cake, while eating it too.

    Sure, we all want that, but we need to be realistic too.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Polls are purely at the mercy of those whom are polled.

    If I walk into Death Row and take a poll on the death penalty, it might not be a pure reflection of public sentiment.

    Much like the American media seldom ventures outside of the northeast when conducting their polls.
    And thank you for proving my point.

    And by the way, I have said it many times, America is in the wake of a rather big crisis, and whether its tax increases, or entitlement cuts, no one seems willing to sacrifice...

    But I will point out your hypocrisy when I see it.

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