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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    rising doesn't mean they aren't cheaper in comaprison
    LOL!

    Unadjusted mortality for Medicare, Medicaid and Uninsured patient groups were higher compared to Private Insurance groups. Moreover, mortality was lowest for Private Insurance patients independent of operation. Importantly, after controlling for age, gender, income, geographic region, operation, and 30 comorbid conditions, Medicaid payer status was associated with the longest length of stay and highest total costs.

    Medicaid was further associated with the greatest adjusted length of stay and total costs despite risk factors or operation. Possible explanations include delays in access to care or disparate differences in health maintenance
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    what an idiot

    obama, i mean

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So, being forced by popular opinion means they're willing to compromise?



    and, pray tell, what popular opinion 'forced' them to drop medicare reform for the debt ceiling debate?

    popular opinion only "forces" one thing - elections. other than that, congresscritters are free to run all over popular opinion, as we saw with Obamacare.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

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    and, pray tell, what popular opinion 'forced' them to drop medicare reform for the debt ceiling debate?

    popular opinion only "forces" one thing - elections. other than that, congresscritters are free to run all over popular opinion, as we saw with Obamacare.
    People don't want their medicare touched. Even tea party members have been clear on that.

    And yes, it is the election that worries politicians, and that worry is a force they react to.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    People don't want their medicare touched.
    that's correct they don't; however, that isn't an option - and so the competition is now over how we are to touch medicare. The Ryan planned slightly behind with national adults, but slightly above with everyone over the age of 30. that's not "public pressure forcing them to abandon entitlement reform". we're not talking about the individual mandate here (if public pressure really "forced" anyone to give up on a policy, surely that would be the first to go).

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that's correct they don't; however, that isn't an option - and so the competition is now over how we are to touch medicare. The Ryan planned slightly behind with national adults, but slightly above with everyone over the age of 30. that's not "public pressure forcing them to abandon entitlement reform". we're not talking about the individual mandate here (if public pressure really "forced" anyone to give up on a policy, surely that would be the first to go).
    It is an option. It simply means we have to make other choices. But I do agree there is a disconnect among the voting public. They want programs but don't want to pay for them.

    Ryan's reaction shows the pressure. He reads polls better, knowing it is those who vote who matter.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    boehner, today: republicans will not vote to raise debt ceiling without trillions of dollars in cuts

    Boehner optimistic, demands trillion-dollar cuts | Reuters

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    exactly. this is a debt-ceiling deal.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    yesterday, the white house "suggested" a debt ceiling lift of TWO TRILLION DOLLARS

    in order to get us past the PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

    Treasury suggests $2 trillion debt cap raise: sources | Reuters

    LOL!

    leadership, anyone?

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    boehner, today: republicans will not vote to raise debt ceiling without trillions of dollars in cuts

    Boehner optimistic, demands trillion-dollar cuts | Reuters
    Hmmm, so if republicans get trillions in cuts,.................why would there be a need to raise the debt ceiling?? LOL!
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    LOL!


    Because (ROLF!) trillions in dollars in cuts off the current (LMAO!) baseline still leaves us trillions in the hole over the next ten years (LOL!)

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