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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Defense is in there.

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    As pointed out earlier, not really.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Hence you're problem, you're living in a past that no longer exists
    no more than you are with your claim that persons' don't need transportation or housing. and i notice you continue to fail to notice that the economics of food are the exact same - inelastic at the edges.

    Funny that you think this is an answer. In context, the judge is exactly correct.
    that's not the question. the question is - does congress have the right to regulate our mental activity.

    NRO's lack of context misses the point and dishonestly presents a false argument.
    not hardly. i can't wait for this argument to get before the SCOTUS. Scalia is going to make absolute nuclear-burnt-toast of this woman.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As pointed out earlier, not really.
    for crying out loud. we reduce the rate of growth over decades in entitlement expenditures and you hyperventilate about how drastic, how draconian, how evil these far-right-wing cuts are....

    but we actually cut, actually lower defense spending by 12% flat out in one year and you pooh pooh it.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    we shouldn't trust anyone with power over us; especially those who are unnaccountable and possess the power to overturn our representative government at will.



    absolutely there are. there are also many judges who buy that they can twist the law to fill their preferences.
    I absolutely don't trust corporate persons, vast personal wealth, Citizens United or the Roberts court, so maybe we agree here.
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    still waiting on your defense of why Congress can regulate mental activity.
    They passed a lot of drug laws, so isn't that regulating mental activity?
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no more than you are with your claim that persons' don't need transportation or housing. and i notice you continue to fail to notice that the economics of food are the exact same - inelastic at the edges.
    Food's a false comparison, but we do give food and housing to people who need it. And cheap, unhealthy food is avaiable. One problem your side constantly makes is that it tries to compare unlike things, ignoring differences. It's poor logic.

    that's not the question. the question is - does congress have the right to regulate our mental activity.
    No, in context of their argument, meaning regulating our choice here, with something we cannot opt out of, the judge is correcting. pretending it is something it isn't is a dishonest tactic.


    not hardly. i can't wait for this argument to get before the SCOTUS. Scalia is going to make absolute nuclear-burnt-toast of this woman.
    And, you've always been rigth about what the courts do?

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    for crying out loud. we reduce the rate of growth over decades in entitlement expenditures and you hyperventilate about how drastic, how draconian, how evil these far-right-wing cuts are....

    but we actually cut, actually lower defense spending by 12% flat out in one year and you pooh pooh it.
    No one is hyperventilating. More silly tactics on your part here. But, factually, what is proposed, which will never become law, would hurt people. Seniors would have inadequate care, losing something they have now, and there is little doubt about that.

    And no, as Ryan only cuts what Obama would in defense, both being inadequate, there is no serious look at defense. Any serious plan would have to do much more.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Food's a false comparison
    why? are you saying that people do not have to have food?

    but we do give food and housing to people who need it
    indeed, and we give medicaid to the same people.

    And cheap, unhealthy food is avaiable
    actually food in general is available at historically cheap prices - we spend less of our income feeding ourselves now than at any other point in human history. because we have allowed it to be sold and purchased on the free market. other countries have not done this - and the result is usually mass starvation.

    No, in context of their argument, meaning regulating our choice here, with something we cannot opt out of
    really? i can just opt out and say that Obamacare doesn't apply to me? well hot dog - where do i get the forms? there are going to be some governors that are going to be very excited to hear about this.

    And, you've always been rigth about what the courts do?
    i dont always agree with them - and I don't always agree with scalia. but i know that if you put an argument as blatantly stupid as the one this woman made in front of him, he's going to land on it like a 2,000 lb bomb.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    They passed a lot of drug laws, so isn't that regulating mental activity?
    Never thought of it that way.
    Give a man a fish, or he will destroy the only existing vial of antidote.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    No, in context of their argument, meaning regulating our choice here, with something we cannot opt out of, the judge is correcting.
    completely incoherent

    dept chair, huh?

    LOL!

    do you post drunk, chairman?

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