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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    and the mandate is murder

    Dems up for reelection under pressure to nix healthcare mandate - TheHill.com

    seeya on the floor, folks

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Which is why we became the empowered populace in the history of mankind. Thank you.

    How many times do you have to see this fail before you guys learn? Socialism fails because you eventually run out of other people's money to spend.

    Raise taxes and watch unemployment skyrocket to 20+ percent, which is common elsewhere in the world.
    Sorry, but 6 of the 10 most prosperous countries in the world are "socialist" countries. 9 of the 9 most prosperous countries in the world have higher taxes than the US and have socialized medicine. Its fine to say you do not like higher taxes and more social programs, but its incorrect to say it does not work.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

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    and the mandate is murder

    Dems up for reelection under pressure to nix healthcare mandate - TheHill.com

    seeya on the floor, folks
    Pity... too bad the Dems did not buy into the Republican idea of mandates in the 1990's. We would have 15 years of history under our belt on this and we would not be wasting our time having the Republicans so outraged about something that was their idea in the first place.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    obamacare---RECONCILED thru senate days after the party was prepared to DEEM it downstairs

    with ZERO gop votes in the senate and ONE in pelosi's place, joseph cao's, the vietnamese seminarian from new orleans who was defeated on tsunami tuesday

    which was the day, nov 2, when the gop won the most house seats since 1938, most state reps and legislatures in history, 10 gubs and 6 senators

    all while campaigning centrally on REPEAL

    obamacare, baby!

    live it, libs, love it

    it's all YOURS

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's called reading for comprhension. The point is in is not inactivity. You cannot opt out of health care. You get injuried, you will be treated. That's a simple fact. Now, you can be as dishonest as NRO, pretend there is no connection between the ideas. Many do that that type of dishonest arguing. But the fact is the point is a simple and honest one. You cannot opt out of health care. No one can be certain they will never need care. In fact, it is almost a certainty that they will need care at some point. Serious care.
    the woman said congress can regulate mental activity. that she also made other claims is good if you want context, but doesn't discount the fact that that is what she claims.

    still waiting on a defense of that.


    but aware that you are unable to provide it, and are desperately now clinging to the notion that you can avoid it and it will go away.

    which is fine - you and me don't really matter at this point on this debate - but the Supreme Court does and that argument being included in the briefs for the mandate is going to significantly harm it.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why should the rich pay more when they already pay too much
    Coming from someone who is a self-proclaimed rich guy.

    But I do agree, hell I work for 7 millionaires. They gave me a job!

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the woman said congress can regulate mental activity. that she also made other claims is good if you want context, but doesn't discount the fact that that is what she claims.

    still waiting on a defense of that.


    but aware that you are unable to provide it, and are desperately now clinging to the notion that you can avoid it and it will go away.

    which is fine - you and me don't really matter at this point on this debate - but the Supreme Court does and that argument being included in the briefs for the mandate is going to significantly harm it.
    It puts it in context. Explains what she means. Pretending otherwise is dishonest. It's the trouble you have with breaking things up too much. You miss meaning by playing disngenuous games, much like NRO. you cannot argue a complete falsehood, a made up context that doesn't really exist. That's what you're trying to do. It won't work.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It puts it in context. Explains what she means. Pretending otherwise is dishonest. It's the trouble you have with breaking things up too much. You miss meaning by playing disngenuous games, much like NRO. you cannot argue a complete falsehood, a made up context that doesn't really exist. That's what you're trying to do. It won't work.
    Oh please....the 'out of context' gambit? Really? haven't we debunked this myth that libs like you only pull out when caught red handed Joe....


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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Geez, where did you learn this?

    Welfare and entitlements were never part of the plan. Those were liberal creations from thin air.
    and for no good reason, right?
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    BS. Have you ever gotten a job from a poor man? You put the pinch on the rich, and they'll just compensate by cutting staff.

    Economics 101.
    The essentials we buy are only part of our economy, if the poor can barely afford essentials, the rich man selling non-essentials has no customers.
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