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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Again, is not a fallacy if the source is flawed. You have to know this. There's a reason I don't use Moveon, or Oberman or the Nation.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Just because it's you and i know that you will be unable to avoid the ad-sourcinem fallacy as opposed to actually trying to defend the stance that Congress can regulate mental activity.... i found the NRO article on it

    The Latest Obamacare Court Ruling: Congress Can Regulate ‘Mental Activity’



    interestingly, she also threw out the Administrations' new claim that the mandate is actually a "tax".

    link to the actual ruling is on the webpage linked here. you are free to go see it if you wish... by going through NRO.
    I looked for a link to the ruling but could not find one. So, you're accepting their word for it with no link to the ruling, is this correct?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    click on the hyperlink in the words "her decision" in the first scentence of the article.

    how far did you look, man?

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, is not a fallacy if the source is flawed. You have to know this. There's a reason I don't use Moveon, or Oberman or the Nation.
    :cpwill puts a penny in his "totally called that" jar:

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    :cpwill puts a penny in his "totally called that" jar:
    But still don't know the difference.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    I think if they really got into this poll and worded it right its not entitlement cuts they are opposed to...its Paul Ryans destroy them and give the wealthiest huge tax cuts in every category.
    Every where I go I ask people what they think of Ryans plan I cant find ONE that likes it...but then again im not talking to any rich 35 yr olds...the rich of course Love it...imagine that

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    But still don't know the difference.
    still waiting on your defense of why Congress can regulate mental activity.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I think if they really got into this poll and worded it right its not entitlement cuts they are opposed to...its Paul Ryans destroy them and give the wealthiest huge tax cuts in every category.
    Every where I go I ask people what they think of Ryans plan I cant find ONE that likes it...but then again im not talking to any rich 35 yr olds...the rich of course Love it...imagine that
    of course the wealthier segments of the nation are going to like it better (even though it takes more from them). they have a much better idea of how businesses and the economy work. that's how they became rich. poor people, however, tend more to be economic morons; which is why they will support the Democrats 'do nothing until we hit bankruptcy" plan.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    still waiting on your defense of why Congress can regulate mental activity.
    You should actually read it. It is about decision making concerning insurance.

    On page 46, following the mental activity quote, you find what I've argued all along:

    No one can guarantee his or her health, or ensure that he or she will never participate in the health care market. . . . The plaintiffs have not opted out of the health care services market because, as living, breathing beings . . . they cannot opt out of this market.”). Thus, the vast majority of individuals, if not all individuals, will require some medical care
    in their lifetime.

    Second, in contrast to other markets for goods and services, if an individual is sick or injured, medical providers may not refuse basic medical services under federal law, regardless of the individual’s ability to pay.11
    So the argument is not what you are NRO is trying to make it out to be, so once again they are inaccurate.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The turd that you keep polishing is bankrupting the country.


    Here, right from your link, that ****ing traitor FDR should have gotten his head blown off for what he did to this country. And you people have the balls to talk to us about Bush war crime trials, while you put that traitor on a pedestal.
    The Murray-Blessing 1982 survey[18] asked historians whether they were liberal or conservative on domestic, social and economic issues. The table below shows that the two groups had only small differences in ranking the best and worst presidents. Both groups agreed on the composition of nine of the top ten Presidents (and were split over the inclusion of either Lyndon B. Johnson or Dwight D. Eisenhower), and six of the worst seven (split over Jimmy Carter or Calvin Coolidge). Conservatives placed Democrat Harry S. Truman at a higher ranking.

    Rankings by Liberals and Conservatives Rank Liberals (n=190) Conservatives (n=50)
    1 Abraham Lincoln Abraham Lincoln
    2 Franklin D. Roosevelt Washington
    3 Washington Franklin D. Roosevelt

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