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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There are but two sides to the ledger and both must be dealt with. We do need more revenue. We do need spending cuts.
    The Congress is free to consider spending cuts if they wish but remember, spending is the whole point of government. We create governments to do things and doing things take money. When we focus on spending cuts, we're implying we want a government which does nothing.
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Which is why we became the empowered populace in the history of mankind. Thank you.
    I'm not sure what you mean. Please expand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Raise taxes and watch unemployment skyrocket to 20+ percent, which is common elsewhere in the world.
    That just isn't so. High taxes neither cause nor correlate with high unemployment.
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    No... it won't.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059420007

    Just taxing the rich will NOT solve the problem, not go a long way to solving it. Across the board means EVERYONE, including the middle class and poor.

    If you have some credible evidence proving it will. feel free to post it.
    I read the posting a couple of days ago but I couldn't find the study. I'd like to read it. Do you have a link?
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    The Congress is free to consider spending cuts if they wish but remember, spending is the whole point of government. We create governments to do things and doing things take money. When we focus on spending cuts, we're implying we want a government which does nothing.
    Geez, where did you learn this?

    No, that is exactly the opposite of what the federal government is supposed to do. The government's job is to build a military, enforce the laws, and get the hell out of the way. Everything else shoud be handled by state and local governments, where the money can be watched much more closely.

    Welfare and entitlements were never part of the plan. Those were liberal creations from thin air.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean. Please expand.



    That just isn't so. High taxes neither cause nor correlate with high unemployment.
    BS. Have you ever gotten a job from a poor man? You put the pinch on the rich, and they'll just compensate by cutting staff.

    Economics 101.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Geez, where did you learn this?

    No, that is exactly the opposite of what the federal government is supposed to do. The government's job is to build a military, enforce the laws, and get the hell out of the way. Everything else shoud be handled by state and local governments, where the money can be watched much more closely.

    Welfare and entitlements were never part of the plan. Those were liberal creations from thin air.
    You should read the Preamble. There's more in there than just building the military and enforcing the laws, which, by-the-way, take money. Even if we just stuck to just those two things we'd have to have money and focusing on spending cuts would limit the amount of each we could do.
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    BS. Have you ever gotten a job from a poor man? You put the pinch on the rich, and they'll just compensate by cutting staff.

    Economics 101.
    the nineties say otherwise.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    The Congress is free to consider spending cuts if they wish but remember, spending is the whole point of government. We create governments to do things and doing things take money. When we focus on spending cuts, we're implying we want a government which does nothing.
    Another asinine statement. Where do you come up with them all?

    It does not imply anything of the kind. It implies that we want a government that spends WISELY... does what is needed, within it's means.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    BS. Have you ever gotten a job from a poor man? You put the pinch on the rich, and they'll just compensate by cutting staff.

    Economics 101.
    Many, if not most, American jobs are created by small business. Small business owners are not necessarily rich. Taxes on the rich would not affect them. Secondly, many Americans are employed by corporations. A corporation can easily be owned exclusively by persons who are not rich. Taxes on the rich would not affect them. Finally, even if what implied were true, why would a rational business person imperil his capacity to generate income just because he retains a bit less?
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Another asinine statement. Where do you come up with them all?

    It does not imply anything of the kind. It implies that we want a government that spends WISELY... does what is needed, within it's means.
    Not if the focus is "spending cuts" exclusively. "Cut spending" is an absolute statement with no regard for efficiency or effectiveness.
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