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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Didn't say it was the law of the land did I ??

    Too much coffee today ?
    I know. But that's the point, so I restated it. It won't be. Ryan knows this as well as we do.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I know. But that's the point, so I restated it. It won't be. Ryan knows this as well as we do.
    I seriously doubt Ryan thinks it will be passed as is either, but that's not the point. At least Ryan has the balls to start talking about the problem as opposed to doing nothing like Obama and the rest of the Dems have done.

    Obama's half-assed plan also has no chance of becoming law. He simply threw it together so he wouldn't look so bad after Ryan presented his.... and it shows.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I seriously doubt Ryan thinks it will be passed as is either, but that's not the point. At least Ryan has the balls to start talking about the problem as opposed to doing nothing like Obama and the rest of the Dems have done.

    Obama's half-assed plan also has no chance of becoming law. He simply threw it together so he wouldn't look so bad after Ryan presented his.... and it shows.
    There's no balls where there is no risk.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There's no balls where there is no risk.
    And you actually think that it took no balls for Ryan to make this proposal ??? If that's what you are saying, then it is one of the most ignorant claims I've seen in awhile. Have you not noticed that Ryan is being ridiculed and lambasted by everyone from the President to leftwing newspapers to anonymous bloggers on the internet.

    No, if he wanted to be safe, he would have kept his mouth shut and gone on tv to call his opponents un-American and radical like Obama's been doing for the past week.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    And you actually think that it took no balls for Ryan to make this proposal ??? If that's what you are saying, then it is one of the most ignorant claims I've seen in awhile. Have you not noticed that Ryan is being ridiculed and lambasted by everyone from the President to leftwing newspapers to anonymous bloggers on the internet.

    No, if he wanted to be safe, he would have kept his mouth shut and gone on tv to call his opponents un-American and radical like Obama's been doing for the past week.
    Let me ask this simple question, as it won't become law, what does he have to lose?

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    I would file this under "no duh" but I think the bigger question is, is why are Democrats and Republicans to pussy to actually cut things that majority of Americans wouldn't care about? Namely, they could reduce the defense budget quite a bit but it's politically risky for any party to suggest major cuts. I'd be willing to bet you could cut our defense budget by a 1/3 and we would still have enough military might to rule this world, and whatever other worlds we (could) find in the future.

    I think one thing that is inescapable though and is coming just isn't the roll back on bush tax cuts for the rich, that is a given. The roll back of tax cuts for all people is something that will come someday. I don't know how in this political climate such a thing could happen, but it will happen. I think if certain guarantees were given to Americans, it would be met with less backlash, what those guarantees could be other than, universal healthcare though is beyond me.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Nonsense.

    You're representing extremist economic theory as fact. Public spending has never been proven to affect private spending.


    You're hilarious.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There's no balls where there is no risk.
    LOL!

    there's no risk in passing thru house a budget that actually takes on the miserable m's?

    where's harry's plan?

    where's the 2011 budget?

    where's hr one?

    where's harry's write up of the slasher's 2012 bid, published in february?

    risk---LOL!

    what an idiot obama is

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    as it won't become law, what does he have to lose?
    unbelievable

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There's no balls where there is no risk.
    Translation please?

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