Page 14 of 38 FirstFirst ... 4121314151624 ... LastLast
Results 131 to 140 of 372

Thread: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

  1. #131
    Sage
    Gill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    The Derby City
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 10:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    8,686

    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I agree something needs to be done...and I also assert its not paul ryans candy store of huge tax cuts for the rich that is not debt reduction.
    Ryan's tax cuts ??? I must have missed that. Seems to me that the effective tax rates for those making over $250,000 will be higher under Ryan's plan.

    • "The America Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -- Alexis de Tocqueville





  2. #132
    cookies crumble
    ARealConservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    04-21-17 @ 09:41 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    14,518

    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Nonsense.

    You're representing extremist economic theory as fact. Public spending has never been proven to affect private spending.
    common sense is all that is needed to understand that public spending affects private spending. what kind of dolt would question something so obvious?

    as an example - we cut all public education spending tomorrow. does private spending on education go up, go down, or stay the same?

    the answer is clear, and no proof is needed for something so obvious.
    Last edited by ARealConservative; 04-21-11 at 11:38 AM.

  3. #133
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ryan's tax cuts ??? I must have missed that. Seems to me that the effective tax rates for those making over $250,000 will be higher under Ryan's plan.
    Yes, Paul Ryan Does Cut Taxes For The Rich

    . . . . Therefore, his plan doesn't really cut taxes on the rich.

    There are four problems with this claim, each of them fatal.

    Yes, Paul Ryan Does Cut Taxes For The Rich | The New Republic

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

  4. #134
    Sage
    Gill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    The Derby City
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 10:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    8,686

    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, Paul Ryan Does Cut Taxes For The Rich

    . . . . Therefore, his plan doesn't really cut taxes on the rich.

    There are four problems with this claim, each of them fatal.

    Yes, Paul Ryan Does Cut Taxes For The Rich | The New Republic
    The article you link to is the one with fatal flaws. Ryan lowers the published tax rate, but the actual tax paid will remain the same or even higher than it is now. Why do you think wealthy folks pay thousands of dollars to CPAs but to find every conceivable loophole available. Do away with the loopholes and the problem is solved.

    • "The America Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -- Alexis de Tocqueville





  5. #135
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    The article you link to is the one with fatal flaws. Ryan lowers the published tax rate, but the actual tax paid will remain the same or even higher than it is now. Why do you think wealthy folks pay thousands of dollars to CPAs but to find every conceivable loophole available. Do away with the loopholes and the problem is solved.
    Without details, I'm doubtful. The article has some real points. He does reduce the rate, and that is a cut. Have Ryan give the same detail to closing these loop holes that he does to the rest of his plan.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

  6. #136
    Sage
    Gill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    The Derby City
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 10:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    8,686

    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Without details, I'm doubtful. The article has some real points. He does reduce the rate, and that is a cut. Have Ryan give the same detail to closing these loop holes that he does to the rest of his plan.
    If you are looking for details, you must really hate Obama's non-plan.

    • "The America Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -- Alexis de Tocqueville





  7. #137
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    If you are looking for details, you must really hate Obama's non-plan.
    I'm not a fan. But I don't believe either party will actually tackle this problem. Ryan knows his plan won't fly. If he thought it would pass, he wouldn't have proposed it. That's my opinion, but as none of this is new, and the previous republican rule largely wasn't concerned abut the deficit, I see no one actually doing anything.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

  8. #138
    Sage
    Gill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    The Derby City
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 10:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    8,686

    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm not a fan. But I don't believe either party will actually tackle this problem. Ryan knows his plan won't fly. If he thought it would pass, he wouldn't have proposed it. That's my opinion, but as none of this is new, and the previous republican rule largely wasn't concerned abut the deficit, I see no one actually doing anything.

    If he thought it would pass, he wouldn't have proposed it.


    Wow, that's a thoughtful line, even for you....

    Only problem is that it did pass, at least in the governing body Ryan is in. Will it become law, probably not but at least it's a start which is more than the Dems and Obama have done.

    • "The America Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -- Alexis de Tocqueville





  9. #139
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post

    If he thought it would pass, he wouldn't have proposed it.


    Wow, that's a thoughtful line, even for you....

    Only problem is that it did pass, at least in the governing body Ryan is in. Will it become law, probably not but at least it's a start which is more than the Dems and Obama have done.
    No, it is not law of the land, and won't be. He knows that. That's the point. He faced no risk that it ever would be.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

  10. #140
    Sage
    Gill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    The Derby City
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 10:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    8,686

    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it is not law of the land, and won't be. He knows that. That's the point. He faced no risk that it ever would be.
    Didn't say it was the law of the land did I ??

    Too much coffee today ?

    • "The America Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -- Alexis de Tocqueville





Page 14 of 38 FirstFirst ... 4121314151624 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •