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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    abc/wapo poll yesterday, significantly subsequent to house passage of ryan's plan and obama's launching of whatever it is he's doing since last wednesday's excellent and great tax-the-rich speech

    Washington Post-ABC News Poll (washingtonpost.com)

    46% strongly disapprove of obama's handling of the economy, 23% strongly approve

    45% definitely will not vote for the slasher's reelection

    surprised?

    what leadership has the slasher shown since his party failed to put up a budget for 2011, since his publishing his 2012 blueprint in february which raises borrowing 20% and appears completely oblivious to entitlements, bowles and simpson...

    in other words, when will harry MOVE in the senate?

    don't hold your breath
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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    today:

    The Obama administration privately urged Standard & Poor’s in recent weeks not to lower its outlook on the United States — a suggestion the ratings agency ignored Monday, two people familiar with the matter said.

    Treasury Department officials had been discussing with S&P whether the ratings agency should change its outlook on the United States to “negative” from “stable,” an indication that the country could lose its crucial AAA rating in coming years over its soaring debt levels.

    Treasury officials told S&P analysts that they were underestimating the ability of politicians in Washington to fashion a compromise to curb deficits, a Treasury official said. They argued a change in ratings was not needed at this time because the debt was manageable and the administration had a viable plan in the works, the official said.
    Obama administration officials tried to keep S&P rating at stable - The Washington Post

    americans perceive if something isn't done now to restructure our entitlements and reform our budget, then our big 3 social programs will not be there in their present form for the next generation

    and the white house pooh pooh's serious, sober warnings

    leadership, anyone?

    why is the president stumping today in california?

    why isn't hurryup harry moving?

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Semantics aside, the point stands. Moderate cuts to spending and increases in taxes are necessary. Sharp cuts to spending would do more harm than good at this point. If the right wing wants to bring down the size of government then it needs to be done over time, not suddenly and in such a manner that it will lead to tumult in our economy.
    Your point is simply an opinion that many of us would strongly disagree with, so it doesn’t really stand, I just tire of arguing the same **** over and over.

    Sharp cuts in spending would be terrific for the economy long term, because ultimately, I don’t agree with the broken window fallacy you subscribe to. Government spending cuts into private sector spending, while not having the safeguards in place that are triggered by inefficient private sector spending. That scenario can’t possibly be good for the economy long term.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    andrew cuomo's state of the state, january: "we are going to be a business friendly state"

    more from the true blue scion from new york:

    "we spend too much, it is that blunt and that simple... we just can't afford it... we don't get what we pay for... we have the worst business tax climate in the nation... new yorkers are voting with their feet... what made new york the empire state was a not a large government complex but a vibrant private sector that created jobs... pensions are exploding... 476% increase... we must relearn the lesson our founders knew and put up a sign that says new york is open for business, we are going to be a business friendly state... a fundamental economic realignment for our state... a radical reform... property taxes are killing new yorkers... highest property tax counties in the nation... it has to end, it has to end now... new york has no future as the tax capitol, our young will not stay, our business will not come..."

    "put it simply, the people of this state simply cannot afford to pay any more taxes, period"

    "we get it"

    GOVERNOR ANDREW M. CUOMO STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo

    and it's not just a great speech, an excellent speech

    no, in new york it's LEADERSHIP

    Cuomo budget: $10 billion deficit cut, no new taxes, layoffs likely

    from athens to sacramento, there's no stopping the wave

    obama is the last obstacle, and he's not standing on higher ground

    he's nasty, too much americans-vs-their-neighbors imagery

    where's the plan, harry, it's your move

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    ryan's BILL passed the house

    House Passes Ryan's 2012 Budget Plan : NPR

    the slasher is in silicon valley raising money

    the senate is paralyzed

    leadership, anyone?
    easy to pass something you know won't go anywhere. We'll see how it plays out.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    you don't KNOW paul ryan?

    LOL!

    where ya been?
    This Paul Ryan:

    In 2008, Ryan voted for TARP, the Wall Street bailout that precipitated the Tea Party, and the bailout of GM and Chrysler.

    Paul Ryan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And I found this spot on:


    Jon Stewart argues Paul Ryan's budget plan puts too much of the burden on the poor and middle class.


    Video - Jon Stewart argues Paul Ryan's budget plan puts too much of the burden on the poor and middle class. - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com

    Video - Jon Stewart argues Paul Ryan's budget plan puts too much of the burden on the poor and middle class. - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem - The Washington Post



    Oh, the fickle American public...

    I've been saying this for awhile now. Maybe it's time to stop blaming the government for everything and start being introspective about ourselves, the People. Our government is only as competent/effective as the electorate that chooses them.
    I think many of these Americans figure that its more than just entitlements causing the problems. Overlapping agencies, grants to useless studies and projects, pork spending, foreign aid, costly war on drugs, and many other things that cost Americans a lot of their tax money.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    easy to pass something you know won't go anywhere
    anyoe actually cutting these things will likely face consequences
    This is part of the reason this debate has lasted so long
    things are speeding up

    where ya been

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think many of these Americans figure that its more than just entitlements causing the problems. Overlapping agencies, grants to useless studies and projects, pork spending, foreign aid, costly war on drugs, and many other things that cost Americans a lot of their tax money.
    Cut all of those, and it wouldn't even be noticable in the budget.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll shows Americans oppose entitlement cuts to deal with debt problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    This Paul Ryan
    yup, that's him

    is THAT the slasher's solution to the budget?

    "vote obama, 2012!"

    "ryan voted for tarp!"

    LOL!

    Jon Stewart argues Paul Ryan's budget plan puts too much of the burden on the poor and middle class.
    oh?

    what does whitehouse.gov say?

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