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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I guess that's all you have left, since there are no polls that show a majority of Americans support continuing the tax cuts for the rich.
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    Should taxes be raised to eat into huge federal deficits? Among the public, 62 percent say they favor cutting government services to sop up the red ink. Just 29 percent say raise taxes.
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    A new CBS News poll finds that Americans strongly prefer cutting spending to raising taxes to reduce the federal deficit. While 77 percent prefer to cut spending, just nine percent call for raising taxes. Another nine percent want to do both.
    So you found some polls that say people want to pay higher taxes? I found some that say the opposite.

    Don't act like it is the word of GOD just because you found a couple polls that support your political slant and do some homework before talking tall crap in the future.

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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    So you found some polls that say people want to pay higher taxes? I found some that say the opposite.

    Don't act like it is the word of GOD just because you found a couple polls that support your political slant and do some homework before talking tall crap in the future.
    Here is a better link to the CBS poll: Poll: Americans Split on What to Cut from Government - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    So you found some polls that say people want to pay higher taxes? I found some that say the opposite.

    Don't act like it is the word of GOD just because you found a couple polls that support your political slant and do some homework before talking tall crap in the future.
    No I found polls that show a majority favor discontinuing the tax cuts for the rich, and you found some polls that show people do not want their taxes raised. Two different subjects. The deciding poll will be in November of next year.
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No I found polls that show a majority favor discontinuing the tax cuts for the rich, and you found some polls that show people do not want their taxes raised. Two different subjects. The deciding poll will be in November of next year.
    No, your polls didnít ask about discontinuing any tax cuts, they were generic. Most Americans donít make $1 million or more a year (as was the subject of your poll) and there isnít a ďdiscontinuationĒ of any tax cuts for people earning $1 million or more a year on the table (or even a proposal like that) so you arenít being honest about your poll results.

    If the poll had asked if they supported repeal of tax cuts for those earning $200k or more you might have a leg to stand on but your poll would have gotten different results and thatís not what YOU are talking about here.

    So do you support mob rule vs. minority rights? If the majority of Americans think we should outlaw homosexuality you would support it?

    Donít blow my questions off like they arenít valid questions. It is exactly the same as asking the majority of people, who donít make $1 million a year or more, whether they want to take rights/money away from those who arenít like them and DO make $1 million or more a year.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    [QUOTE=GPS_Flex;1059423944]No, your polls didn’t ask about discontinuing any tax cuts, they were generic.

    Here's another:

    "A new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds that 78 percent oppose cutting spending on Medicare to reduce the debt, and 69 percent oppose cutting spending on Medicaid. Additionally, 56 percent oppose cuts in military spending to reduce the debt.

    While Americans oppose cutting spending in those three particular areas, as many as 72 percent approved of the idea of raising taxes on the rich to reduce the national debt."


    Read more: Poll finds most Americans can't name a GOP presidential candidate - Political Hotsheet - CBS News


    If the poll had asked if they supported repeal of tax cuts for those earning $200k or more you might have a leg to stand on but your poll would have gotten different results and that’s not what YOU are talking about here.

    They said the rich. Since "The median household income in the United States is $46,326," an individual making more than $200,000 is rich by comparison.
    How much does the Average American Make? Breaking Down the U.S. Household Income Numbers. | FedUpUSA

    So do you support mob rule vs. minority rights? If the majority of Americans think we should outlaw homosexuality you would support it?
    No system is perfect. I prefer a representative government over a dictatorship.

    Don’t blow my questions off like they aren’t valid questions. It is exactly the same as asking the majority of people, who don’t make $1 million a year or more, whether they want to take rights/money away from those who aren’t like them and DO make $1 million or more a year.
    I am satisfied that the American people are smart enough to realize who is rich and who is not, and which party most closely represents their interests, and which party representes the interests of the rich.
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No system is perfect. I prefer a representative government over a dictatorship.

    I am satisfied that the American people are smart enough to realize who is rich and who is not, and which party most closely represents their interests, and which party representes the interests of the rich.
    Then you support what happened in Wisconsin. At least most of the Conservatives I disagree with are consistent. You donít seem to have any kind of moral convictions or rules that guide your decision making.

    Do you just take orders from politicians on high who hand down talking points for you or do you have a line drawn in the sand somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

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    Then you support what happened in Wisconsin. At least most of the Conservatives I disagree with are consistent. You don’t seem to have any kind of moral convictions or rules that guide your decision making.
    The Governor did not run on union busting and he will not be reelected. That's how the system is supposed to work, if that is what you mean. I seek to promote what is good for my fellow Americans, all of them, not just the wealthy. That is my guide.
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

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    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post

    The Governor did not run on union busting and he will not be reelected. That's how the system is supposed to work, if that is what you mean. I seek to promote what is good for my fellow Americans, all of them, not just the wealthy. That is my guide.
    I don't know what the governor "ran on" but he was elected governor and together with the other elected officials of Wisconsin, they have passed a new law. I'm happy to hear that you support the process that took place in Wisconsin.

    You don't seek to promote what is best for all Americans, you promote what you FEEL is best for all Americans at any given time. As I said, you lack a true moral foundation for your principals and beliefs. I respect anyone who stands up for what they honestly believe is the best thing for America but as I said, you can't even decide whether you support minority rights or mob rules. When you figure out where you actually stand on an issue, let me know and we'll talk some more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post

    I don't know what the governor "ran on" but he was elected governor and together with the other elected officials of Wisconsin, they have passed a new law.
    Fortunately, the state's voters know what the Governor ran on, and it wasn't union busting, and the courts have not yet decided if the law is even legal yet.

    You don't seek to promote what is best for all Americans, you promote what you FEEL is best for all Americans at any given time. As I said, you lack a true moral foundation for your principals and beliefs. I respect anyone who stands up for what they honestly believe is the best thing for America but as I said, you can't even decide whether you support minority rights or mob rules. When you figure out where you actually stand on an issue, let me know and we'll talk some more.
    I put my fellow American's health and welfare before personal greed of the few as laid out in our Constitution as well as the religious training I grew up with that says basically the same thing, that helping our fellow man is a greater good than enhancing one's personal wealth. What's your guide?
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Drink some more blue kool aid.....you folks had control of Congressfor 40 years...and NOTHING changed, are you really so dense as to think the Dems are going to change anything now?

    Same **** different decade and the lemmings of the Left jus tnod their little heads and keep swallowing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No I found polls that show a majority favor discontinuing the tax cuts for the rich, and you found some polls that show people do not want their taxes raised. Two different subjects. The deciding poll will be in November of next year.
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