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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Another that believes our forefathers were more socialist than we are today since they assesed the rich higher taxes and created and upheld the Constitutionality of SS and M/M for the last 8 decades.

    It will be most interesting to see how this class war plays out with the working class next November.
    I am sorry I was rude in my last response, but come on you couldn't be serious.
    Our founding forefathers actually where the true liberals and not socialist by any means, they just fought a 4 years revolution to get out from under tyranny.

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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Another that believes our forefathers were more socialist than we are today since they assesed the rich higher taxes and created and upheld the Constitutionality of SS and M/M for the last 8 decades.

    It will be most interesting to see how this class war plays out with the working class next November.
    I won't really matter who wins, the state will be insolvent and then everyone will be loser and the biggest losers in all this will be the public employees. Bankruptcy once achieved really has no prejudice, when there no money there's no money regardless of party.

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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    I am sorry I was rude in my last response, but come on you couldn't be serious.
    Our founding forefathers actually where the true liberals and not socialist by any means, they just fought a 4 years revolution to get out from under tyranny.
    Thank you for the apology. BTW, I specifically said our forefathers of the last 8 decades. That would be our fathers, grandfathers, and great-grandfathers that the far-right are implying were more socialist than we are today, since they assessed the rich more in taxes and established and supported SS and M/M as Constitutional.

    Since you bring up the founding fathers, they are the ones that provided the intent of the Constitution, which they spelled out in the Preamble. There is nothing tyrannical in following the intent of our Constitution. That has been the determination under our rule of law under both parties for the last 80 years.

    My father was a tank commander in WWII at the Battle of the Bulge and I would not in any way consider him a socialist.
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    4 down and 4 to go, although I believe that only 5 or possibly 6 out of the 8 will end up being recalled. Still, considering the difficulty of recall in Wisconsin, this is a very impressive number - Which goes to show you that, if you are elitist enough to believe that you can do anything you want after being elected, and act like thugs while doing it, you are going to be hammered for it.

    Folks, THIS is what Democracy looks like.

    Article is here.
    Perhaps should actions could be called "teacall petitions." You are hereby "teacalled." Sounds effeminate, doesn't it? Appropriate, too. You don't waltz into our state and try to take away our rights, you brownshirted sack of vermin. I therefore teacall you back to your legitimate domain of playinng with dolls in your mother's basement rather than scheming agaainst the livelihoods of people who work for a living.

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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    I just heard today that the deadlines had been passed with out the signatures necessary to recall the Democrats, so the other side does not seem to have the same motivation to let the politicians know which side got it wrong in Wisconsin.
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I just heard today that the deadlines had been passed with out the signatures necessary to recall the Democrats, so the other side does not seem to have the same motivation to let the politicians know which side got it wrong in Wisconsin.
    You heard wrong. 3 democrats, will face recall elections. Based on the Prosser vote, those three democrats are in danger of being recalled.

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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    You heard wrong. 3 democrats, will face recall elections. Based on the Prosser vote, those three democrats are in danger of being recalled.
    I think he's talking about this:

    A recall effort targeting two Democratic state senators has fallen short at the deadline.

    Organizers had until Monday afternoon to turn in petitions to recall Sen. Lena Taylor of Milwaukee and Sen. Fred Risser of Madison. But the organizers failed to meet the deadline.

    Recall effort for 2 Wis. Dems fails at deadline
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Or maybe it's that they get 3 months off per year, make good salary, get good benefits and a lifetime pension. I know that's the reason my uncle stayed in the streets and sanitation department in Chicago for so long. The guy's living large off his pension. Owns a couple of houses here and In Fla paid for by me and the other tax payers of our crooked city.
    You know little about teaching if you think that is the case.

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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You know little about teaching if you think that is the case.
    I personally know teachers. Are you disagreeing with the fact that they get 3 months off, have a good salary (I have acess to all of their salaries in my district), or a good pension? Tell me which you disagree with and i'll show you why you are wrong.

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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I personally know teachers. Are you disagreeing with the fact that they get 3 months off, have a good salary (I have acess to all of their salaries in my district), or a good pension? Tell me which you disagree with and i'll show you why you are wrong.
    They are largely underpaid. The often work during the summer. The often spend their own money on supplies for students. Pensions vary across the country. Comparatively, with equal education and effort, they are not on the top of the heap. If you're become a teacher for the reasons he mentioned, you will be sadly disappointed.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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