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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The judge is a stooge, the bill was passed legally, this is how Liberals operate, if they can't get their way they find a "friendly" judge and sue.
    I'll stick with the rule of law, thanks!
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'll stick with the rule of law, thanks!
    Yeah, when the rule of law eventually plays out and the legislation stands will you still be saying this?

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'll stick with the rule of law, thanks!
    Well good I'm glad you are sticking with the rule of law, now will you please tell your liberals friends that as well . and we can get over and past this nonsense of Bush not winning the 2000 election because the highest court in our country said he did and since you believe in the rule of law, then you must be in total agreement with the 2000 election results right ?

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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Yeah, when the rule of law eventually plays out and the legislation stands will you still be saying this?
    Have you heard me saying I plan to take up arms over the Citizen's Unitied ruling?
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Well good … I'm glad you are sticking with the rule of law, now will you please tell your liberals friends that as well …. and we can get over and past this nonsense of Bush not winning the 2000 election … because the highest court in our country said he did … and since you believe in the rule of law, then you must be in total agreement with the 2000 election results right ?

    The liberals suffered through Bush's two terms as did the rest of America. It was his leadership, or lack thereof, that allowed the Democrats to regain power. Elections are how we change policy in this country. I am willing to wager that Walker will be a one-term Governor.
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    So people who want Obama impeached are extremists and morons (along with racist and other drivle). Yet it's heroic to pitch a fit and recall state senators. Hypocrisy is funny. What I also think is truly sad is the pure outrage and tantrums spoiled adults are throwing over one issue. Now that's extreme.
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    So people who want Obama impeached are extremists and morons (along with racist and other drivle). Yet it's heroic to pitch a fit and recall state senators. Hypocrisy is funny. What I also think is truly sad is the pure outrage and tantrums spoiled adults are throwing over one issue. Now that's extreme.
    Perhaps if the Germans had raised a ruckus when their union rights were being stripped they would not have had a fascist government foisted upon them by the corporations. Freedom is worth fighting for my young friend.
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Perhaps if the Germans had raised a ruckus when their union rights were being stripped they would not have had a fascist government foisted upon them by the corporations. Freedom is worth fighting for my young friend.
    I have nothing wrong with private sector unions, but when the public sector unions are too powerful, sucking tax payer coffers, and giving unwarranted benefits that no one in the private sector would have doing the same job is just wrong. What about the freedoms of taxpayers or their finances? What about the freedom of the employer to not have to pay unsustainable benefits? Regardless, this can't be compared to nazi Germany. Let's not violate Godwin's law.
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I have nothing wrong with private sector unions, but when the public sector unions are too powerful, sucking tax payer coffers, and giving unwarranted benefits that no one in the private sector would have doing the same job is just wrong.
    If that were actually the case, I wouldn't support public unions either. But it is not. Public unions have negotiated in good faith with their employers to recieve better benefits in lieu of salary. The fact of the matter is that our teachers, firemen, and policemen are paid too little, not too much, and the lack of union representation is going to hurt the service to the public they perform as you won't be able to attract quality people for less then they can make in the private market.

    What about the freedoms of taxpayers or their finances?
    What about them? Do they expect to get public services for less than it would cost them in the private market?

    What about the freedom of the employer to not have to pay unsustainable benefits?
    The employer negotiated for higher benefits to keep their salaries lower.

    Regardless, this can't be compared to nazi Germany. Let's not violate Godwin's law.
    Okay, ignore history in Germany if it makes you uncomfortable. Unions are the first thing to go in clearing the way for corporate control of government. There can be no right to bargain collectively in a fascist controlled system. Why would you expect workers to happily give up this right?
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    Re: Petition to recall Wisconsin GOP Sen. Sheila Harsdorf to be filed Tuesday

    Yes, here we go...we're Nazi's because we don't think Public Sector Unions should be able to "Collectively Bargain" with US.

    Tax Payers are their "employers"....


    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Perhaps if the Germans had raised a ruckus when their union rights were being stripped they would not have had a fascist government foisted upon them by the corporations. Freedom is worth fighting for my young friend.
    Last edited by Amazed; 04-21-11 at 06:02 PM.
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