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    Re: Attack on 'blasphemous' art work fires debate on role of religion in France

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Looks like France isn't only having problems with Muslims as we are being lead by some to believe. The Christians are being unruly too.
    4 stupid young thugs smash the "artwork" with hammers and suddenly France is having "problems" with the Christians? Come one, now... The 1000 strong protest was largely peaceful.
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    Re: Attack on 'blasphemous' art work fires debate on role of religion in France

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    4 stupid young thugs smash the "artwork" with hammers and suddenly France is having "problems" with the Christians? Come one, now... The 1000 strong protest was largely peaceful.
    Why didn't all those peaceful Christians stop the extremists among their ranks?
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    Re: Attack on 'blasphemous' art work fires debate on role of religion in France

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Why didn't all those peaceful Christians stop the extremists among their ranks?
    Maybe because they had the right to do it?

    Until dipping a cross in a cup of piss equates to decapitating a dozen people, you will not have a point. I just hope you don't make such a stupid point again. You would need a dunce cap if you did.
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    Re: Attack on 'blasphemous' art work fires debate on role of religion in France

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    actually getting a perfect duplicate of a favored print is pretty difficult. There's a lot of unique variables in doing it by hand (like chemically stopping the development), that you just never encounter with digital prints, and chances are, an exact duplicate will never be made
    Heck, maybe the later copy will be better and now it will have even greater notoriety because of what happened here.

    Shame to, because I always thought it was a beautiful print
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    Re: Attack on 'blasphemous' art work fires debate on role of religion in France

    Im a Christian i really do not find the offensive at all. I actually think its a pretty cool photo.


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    Re: Attack on 'blasphemous' art work fires debate on role of religion in France

    Of course it's offensive. That's the purpose. It's offensive, controversial and in your face. In my opinion that is the beauty and very definition of art. Art is supposed to evoke a reaction of some sort, even if it is extreme disgust and repulsion. I think that the "Piss Christ" piece is very provocative, but also makes a very powerful statement that some may agree or disagree with. You can be disgusted and disagree all you want, but it doesn't cease to be art. Believe it or not, but one can actually find beauty in things that repulse or offend us.

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    Re: Attack on 'blasphemous' art work fires debate on role of religion in France

    And on an added note, the only thing that I feel after looking at that picture is envy and disappointment because I didn't think of doing that first.

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    Re: Attack on 'blasphemous' art work fires debate on role of religion in France

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm a Christian. Although I find the "piss Christ" to be highly offensive and not a work of art, I respect the person's right to express themselves even if it offends me. We don't have the right to not be offended, we do have the right to free speech. There is a difference between a senator proposing a law and a law actually being passed and implemented.
    Allow me to add to this: I find these displays highly offensive and piss me off to the point where I want to hurt someone. However, I understand that it's that person's right to express themselves in that manner and it's not my right to kick the **** out of that person for expressing his God given right of expression.

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    Re: Attack on 'blasphemous' art work fires debate on role of religion in France

    If I hadn't known it was actually piss, I would've just looked at it and said "Hey look it's Jesus encased in amber! How pretty!"
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    Re: Attack on 'blasphemous' art work fires debate on role of religion in France

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Looks like France isn't only having problems with Muslims as we are being lead by some to believe. The Christians are being unruly too.
    Whenever you pull up an instance of a "Christian" committing a violent act allegedly in the name of religion, please make 2 comparisons

    Compare the individual and/or group population to the total number of Christians in the area and compare the amount of public support v. public condemnation.
    Last edited by ric27; 04-18-11 at 11:10 PM.

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