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    Re: Taxes reach historic low

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    J-mac, I understand where you're coming from and the points you've laid out here are probably suited for a separate discussion.

    It's clear to me, however, at least at the federal level, that tax rates on personal income have remained relatively low (compared to the past) for all income brackets. That's the point the OP was trying to make.
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    Re: Taxes reach historic low

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Why are you poor?
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    Re: Taxes reach historic low

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    too much posting not enough working?
    Sounds like a faith based argument.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Taxes reach historic low

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Why are you poor?
    Snugglin up to the ole gubmet tit waiten for my ship to come in.HELP ME TD.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: Taxes reach historic low

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    5%, 10%, I don't know, you tell me? Something though don't you think?

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    Ok, so lets figure this out.

    10% of 12,000 dollars is 1200 dollars. That person making 12K is now making 10,800 because you feel they should "pitch in" and "help out."

    10% of 100,000 dollars is 10,000 dollars. That leaves them with 90,000 dollars. Would you say that 10% made more difference to the 12K guy or the 100K guy? And when we are 14 trillion in debt, how much will 1200 dollars help out the gov't, compared to the man who actually earned it? Sure doesn't sound very conservative to me and I really lay large amounts of doubt on your "how much of MY money should the gov't be allowed to take?" bullshyt when you sit here and want to take 1200 dollars out of the hands of someone earning 12k a year.

    That's not conservative my friend.

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    Re: Taxes reach historic low

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Sounds like a faith based argument.
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    Re: Taxes reach historic low

    Ahhhh, I see.....so it isn't REALLY fairness that concerns you...it's punishment....we get it.

    You/they want more they can earn it like everyone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Ok, so lets figure this out.

    10% of 12,000 dollars is 1200 dollars. That person making 12K is now making 10,800 because you feel they should "pitch in" and "help out."

    10% of 100,000 dollars is 10,000 dollars. That leaves them with 90,000 dollars. Would you say that 10% made more difference to the 12K guy or the 100K guy? And when we are 14 trillion in debt, how much will 1200 dollars help out the gov't, compared to the man who actually earned it? Sure doesn't sound very conservative to me and I really lay large amounts of doubt on your "how much of MY money should the gov't be allowed to take?" bullshyt when you sit here and want to take 1200 dollars out of the hands of someone earning 12k a year.

    That's not conservative my friend.
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    Re: Taxes reach historic low

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Ok, so lets figure this out.

    10% of 12,000 dollars is 1200 dollars. That person making 12K is now making 10,800 because you feel they should "pitch in" and "help out."

    10% of 100,000 dollars is 10,000 dollars. That leaves them with 90,000 dollars. Would you say that 10% made more difference to the 12K guy or the 100K guy? And when we are 14 trillion in debt, how much will 1200 dollars help out the gov't, compared to the man who actually earned it? Sure doesn't sound very conservative to me and I really lay large amounts of doubt on your "how much of MY money should the gov't be allowed to take?" bullshyt when you sit here and want to take 1200 dollars out of the hands of someone earning 12k a year.

    That's not conservative my friend.
    You fail to consider whether the person bringing in 12k bothered to finish high school.

    Choices have consequences. The guy making 12k still has choices but the longer he waits to get off his ass and act on them, the longer he is going to be poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Taxes reach historic low

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Ahhhh, I see.....so it isn't REALLY fairness that concerns you...it's punishment....we get it.

    You/they want more they can earn it like everyone else.
    What? Punishment? We're forced to pay taxes with threat of force, you don't think the people who can actually afford it should be the ones who should pay? Fairness? What's fair about taking someone's income when every penny is literally going to survival? A 1 bedroom apartment around here is going for about 600 dollars a month. 12g's a year and you have 2/3 of that going to rent alone.

    GPS, this has nothing to do with wanting or not wanting to be poor. This has to do with the gov't forcing you to give up some of your income when you are barely scratching out a living. Obviously you've never lived poor before where 1200 dollars actually mattered. Consider yourself blessed.

    Don't get me wrong, I am part of the Tea party, taxed enough already. I sure in the HELL dont support taxes on anybody, but damn, live life as a truly poor person for a while and you'll see why taxing someone making 12g's a year is doing way more harm than good. Remember, its THEIR money first.

    J-man, you're sounding awfully liberal. Remember, liberals are liberal with OTHER PEOPLES MONEY. Sounds like you, doesn't it? I'm not saying TO tax anyone, I'm only saying to NOT tax the poor. How they became poor, or are poor, is irrelevant.
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    Re: Taxes reach historic low

    Don't even go there.....ANYBODY cab BETTER themselves if they want to...I don't I owe anybody ANYTHING.

    In the last 8 years I've had 2 failed businesses and not only SURVIVED but will go from 35,000 in 2009 to 70,000 this year.

    I am sick and tired of people saying it can't be done, get off your asses and make it happen.



    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    What? Punishment? We're forced to pay taxes with thread of force, you don't think the people who can actually afford it should be the ones who should pay? Fairness? What's fair about taking someone's income when every penny is literally going to survival?

    GPS, this has nothing to do with wanting or not wanting to be poor. This has to do with the gov't forcing you to give up some of your income when you are barely scratching out a living. Obviously you've never lived poor before where 1200 dollars actually mattered. Consider yourself blessed.
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