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    Re: Presidential Candidates Have To Show Birth Certificates Under Louisiana Proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    It does not and you know it! People who check id are, luckily, not as gullible as you Obama tools

    I could use MY COLB because it tells the doctors, like it must It even has his home address. It tells what Hospotal I was born in, like it must. It tells what cities both my parents were born in. It tells how nuch I weighed.

    Really no reason to douby my COLB. Whty did you hang out in that thread so long if you weren't going to learn a single thing? Stop trying to lie to us to think there is something normal about that COLB. There isn't!
    Guess what you get if, say, your house burns down with your birth certificate.
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    Re: Presidential Candidates Have To Show Birth Certificates Under Louisiana Proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Guess what you get if, say, your house burns down with your birth certificate.
    I don't have a birth certtificate. That's filed somewhere in Boston. I have a "certificate of live birth" that indicates so much detail that nobody would think to doubt it. It says I weighed 8 pounds as if that's anybody's very nosy business.

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    Re: Presidential Candidates Have To Show Birth Certificates Under Louisiana Proposal

    Hey, rocket88, we're still waiting for your evidence so that we can put this puppy to sleep.

    Would you mind hurrying just a little bit? Or did your dog eat the evidence?

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    Re: Presidential Candidates Have To Show Birth Certificates Under Louisiana Proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Is that a joke? Obviously there's a risk. It's already happened! What's the big damn deal about showing your birth certificate? Every citizen has one and it was created for this exact reason.
    When did it happen? This is a whole lot of silliness.

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    Re: Presidential Candidates Have To Show Birth Certificates Under Louisiana Proposal

    Someone mentioned above that Jindal was not born in the US. I believe that he was born in the US, for what it's worth. It's irrelevant to this thread, but I wanted to set the record straight.
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    Re: Presidential Candidates Have To Show Birth Certificates Under Louisiana Proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Hey, rocket88, we're still waiting for your evidence so that we can put this puppy to sleep.

    Would you mind hurrying just a little bit? Or did your dog eat the evidence?
    I'm sure he'll get it for you once you provide a birth certificate for every President we've had as you claimed you could do.



    In principle, I don't disagree with these laws the various states are trying to pass. In reality, they're not principled bills in the least but partisan reactionary BS aimed at President Obama that's likely to go the way of a blue law the moment he is no longer in office. Regardless, he's provided a legal form proving his birth as a US Citizen, certified and verified by a state of this union. Just because birther's want to go "um...no, its not good enough, give us more!" doesn't mean he should have to or that what he has isn't legitimate. They're just doing what conspiracy theorists do, continuing to deny evidence and truth to keep their conspiracy going.

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    Re: Presidential Candidates Have To Show Birth Certificates Under Louisiana Proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Firstly its not what all people want, thats an assumption on your part. Secondly, given the amount of information and digging into a candidates life there's no way a non-natural citizen is going to become President. Thirdly, anyone who thinks a President candidate, or the actual President, was born in another country is delusional and won't be satisfied by any amount of fact or any documents. Therefore is just a waste of money and amounts to nothing more than politicians feeding on the irrational fears of some, hopefully not many, of their potential voters and thus encouraging them which is entirely counter productive.

    To introduce an additional check before someone is placed on a ballot, and thus possibility become President, enforces the idea that there aren't sufficient enough checks to ensure a Constitutionally ineligible person is not elected, which there certainly are. Like I said, feeds and encourages irrational fears and ignorance amongst the people.
    So you are aware of every check in every state for this purpose, are you? Tell you what, list every check in all 50 states so that I can believe you're not just blowing smoke. Never in my life have I ever heard anyone question the provision in the Constitution about whether someone should have to be born here to be President, until now. So I don't think a check was ever really necessary. There are people that think any citizen should be allowed to run, not just natural born. In my opinion, that is the genesis of all this legislation; because people are concerned about cheaters. And you can blame your man Obama for the total PR ****up on this matter, because he threw gas on the fire.
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    Re: Presidential Candidates Have To Show Birth Certificates Under Louisiana Proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Apuzo View Post
    You do know that for some people, you can be born in America and still not be a natural born citizen. The founder and architect of the 14th Amendment, John Bingham defined a natural born citizen as this:

    “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))

    You can't argue with the man who founded the citizenship amendment in our constitution. Obama's father, who wasn't a U.S. citizen, held allegiance to the British Crown. That was passed to Obama Jr when he was born.
    The notion of jus soli citizenship being considered Natural Born PRECEDES the 14th Amendment... it even predates the US itself...
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    Re: Presidential Candidates Have To Show Birth Certificates Under Louisiana Proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Maybe we should attach a rider to the bill requiring medical records from each candidate to prove they are not a Cylon.
    Then again, if that Cylon looks like the one that impersonated Boomer... I would vote for her anyway.... :P
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    Re: Presidential Candidates Have To Show Birth Certificates Under Louisiana Proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'm sure he'll get it for you once you provide a birth certificate for every President we've had as you claimed you could do.



    In principle, I don't disagree with these laws the various states are trying to pass. In reality, they're not principled bills in the least but partisan reactionary BS aimed at President Obama that's likely to go the way of a blue law the moment he is no longer in office. Regardless, he's provided a legal form proving his birth as a US Citizen, certified and verified by a state of this union. Just because birther's want to go "um...no, its not good enough, give us more!" doesn't mean he should have to or that what he has isn't legitimate. They're just doing what conspiracy theorists do, continuing to deny evidence and truth to keep their conspiracy going.
    I most certainly could provide evidence of citizenship for every president of the United States! That it is required by our constitution makes the task quite easy.

    So let's see, you think it is my responsibility to provide evidence of Obama's citizenship and not the responsibility of Obama?

    You're having some trouble with simple logic, I'm afraid.

    Conspiracy. LOL You know nothing about this topic and shoud maybe spend your time here looking for some good recipes.

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