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    Re: Obama: Congress must — and will — raise debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No they have not.
    Bush. Clinton. Carter. Nixon. I'm sure I could name a few more if I gave it more than 2 seconds thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Obama is not presidential.. You don't invite the opposite party leaders to a speech to demean them
    There you go, changing the subject again.
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    Re: Obama: Congress must — and will — raise debt limit

    barack obama, 2006:

    The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
    Obama: Not Always a Fan of Upping Debt Ceiling - By Katrina Trinko - The Corner - National Review Online

    of course, that's before he became the slasher hussein

    this week:

    President Obama says his 2006 vote against raising the debt limit was "political" and that he wasn't thinking about "what was important for the country.

    Here's what Obama told ABC News's George Stephanopoulos: "I think that it’s important to understand the vantage point of a senator versus the vantage point of a ... president. When you’re a senator, traditionally what’s happened is, this is always a lousy vote. Nobody likes to be tagged as having increased the debt limit for the United States by a trillion dollars. ... As president, you start realizing: 'You know what? We -- we can’t play around with this stuff. This is the full faith in credit of the United States.' And so that was just a example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country. And I’m the first one to acknowledge it."
    The Obama Presidency. Minute by Minute | POLITICO 44

    leadership, anyone?

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    Re: Obama: Congress must — and will — raise debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    They must?
    If Congress doesn't want to send the economy spiraling downward into another recession, then they will pass it. The longer Congress plays games with raising the debt ceiling, the more uncomfortable they will make Wall Street and hinder economic growth.

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    Re: Obama: Congress must — and will — raise debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I don’t get it. Can one of you democrats fill me in on the logic here?
    It isn't about voting to raise the National Debt. It's about the Fed Reserve providing the extra money to cover yearly budget deficits, and automatically adding it to the National Debt.

    It's really not a matter of choice. The government has to pay all of its debts every year, but some Congress people, and presidents, always seem to make it a political issue.

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    Re: Obama: Congress must — and will — raise debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    leadership, anyone?
    The kind of inconsistency you're pointing out has been exhibited by a number of powerful politicians on both sides of the isle.
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    Re: Obama: Congress must — and will — raise debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I'm not a Democrat, but I can fill in the blanks because it's kinda obvious.

    The Democrats knew the debt ceiling increase was going to pass without their help, so they voted against it so that they could claim to be more fiscally responsible than the Republicans and make a talking point out of it.

    Both parties use debt ceiling increases and budget crises to play chicken with their opposition whenever possible.
    Makes you wonder about this time around. Will Republicans have to "sacrifice" some of their less-popular members in order for the bill to be passed in the House while the majority of Republicans vote against it?

    I think part of the reason they are pushing for a "serious step" in budget reform before the debt limit is raised is simply so they can treat some of their votes to raise the debt limit as compromise. Whereas, in fact, raising the debt limit should not be a compromise. It is a practical necessity for the wellbeing of everyone in America.

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    Re: Obama: Congress must — and will — raise debt limit

    Pretty much, yeah.
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    Re: Obama: Congress must — and will — raise debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The kind of inconsistency you're pointing out has been exhibited by a number of powerful politicians on both sides of the aisle.
    barack the slasher's the only one i recall saying he was "making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country"

    hope and change, anyone?

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    Re: Obama: Congress must — and will — raise debt limit

    americans can see---one party is working its bright orange butt off trying to reform entitlements before they kill us

    the other is spending and blaming, spending and blaming

    leadership, anyone?

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    Re: Obama: Congress must — and will — raise debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    barack the slasher's the only one i recall saying he was "making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country"

    hope and change, anyone?
    Ignore my point if you must, it won't make it go away.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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