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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    We DO see....which is why we didn't want to extend tax cuts over $250K. However, the Republicans fought to keep those tax cuts for their wealthy base and now...because of those tax extensions, want to take the money from seniors and the working class and those making well under 100K.


    The writing on the wall is clear....The GOP is the party for those making over 250K. Everyone else should vote their pocketbook and support the Democrats.
    You DON'T see... a 4% tax increase "on the rich" is a talking point, not a solution. No amount of "tax the rich" can so much as balance the budget, much less touch the snowballing costs of social programs and interest on the debt.

    The stone cold truth is that if "seniors and the working class and those making well under 100K" want their programs, they're going to have to pony up a lot more than they are now to pay for 'em.

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    House passes huge GOP budget cuts, opposing Obama - Yahoo! News

    Republicans controlling the House pushed to passage on Friday a bold but politically dangerous budget blueprint to slash social safety net programs like food stamps and Medicaid and fundamentally restructure Medicare health care for the elderly.

    The choice in the next election is becoming more and more clear. There is no question which party represents the interests of the wealthy and which party represents the interests of the rest of the country.

    The GOP fought hard earlier to preserve tax cuts for those making over 250K. Today they showed how they want to pay for those cuts...by slashing money from food stamps, medicaid and medicare.

    The GOP war on the elderly, the poor and the working class continues....
    Yeah, they want to kill little puppy dogs so they can feed the elderly dog food.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    We should cut both as they represent the lion's share of federal spending.
    They will all eventually have to be cut, there is no argument about it with those in the know.
    which is why i'm glad the Republican House Budget cuts the $178 Bn a year that Secretary Gates identified as unneeded. sends that charge straight to the john.

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    haymarket, what is your opinion of the SCOTUS case that struck down mccain-feingold?
    I would be more interested in what he thought of a Supreme Court that ruled on Plessy v. Fergusson, and upheld segregation.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That should be your tipoff that you don't have all the facts. No matter how good a plan may be, there is always a downside. If you can't figure it out, then that simply means you either refuse to see it or your information sources are so biased that you are unable to see it.
    Enlighten me. What are the downsides to getting a $10 return on each $1 dollar invested?
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    yup, at a cost of more than three quarters of a trillion in new taxes

    YouTube - President Obama's Pledge Never to Raise Taxes on Anyone Making Less Than $250,000 a Year
    He hasn't increased my taxes, as a matter of fact I got a tax break.



    yup, while simultaneously cutting medicare by a full half tril
    You are opposed to cutting waste in medicare?



    remember the bbc report this week BBC News - Surgeons raise alarm over waiting

    "months waiting in pain"
    Months of waiting for knee and hip replacements are damn sight better than not being able to afford knee and hip replacements at all!
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Each year, paying a percent of your wealth? I'm flabbergasted. That's got to be one of the most socialist things I've ever heard.
    It'd be fair for each year to someone walk away with what you own. No, that's got to be one of the least fair things I've ever heard.
    If you prefer to put it as 80% of your income which was the rate for the top tax bracket for the 80 years we had a progressive tax system, think of it that way instead. It works out about the same to make up for the 80 % of the wealth owned by them.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    They can probably afford to, but why should they? They already pay more.
    Oh, I thought we were intereted in lowering the debt and rebuilding the middle class. If that is not the goal then keep on as we are.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    when do you expect hurryup harry to move
    If you are referring to the President, he has said he will not renew the tax cuts this year. We will see if he sticks to this or remains the political centrist he has demonstrated himself to be on most issues so far.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Look at the pretty chart.



    The fear mongering may work on you but it doesn't work on me. Are things great? No. But they are by no means bad or even close to as bad as they have been in the past. People are not starving and dying in the streets. The tax rate right now is as low as it has ever been. Maybe some people need to take their heads out of their asses and actually research how bad the economic conditions actually are instead of listening to pundits screaming on radio and television shows how bad things are.
    You might be hypnotized by “pretty chart[s]” but I am educated enough and informed enough to know that they are meaningless without an explanation of the methods used to create it.

    Maybe you are among the people who need to take their heads out of their asses and do some research of your own. If you can answer this simple question, I will bow down before you and worship your “non-head in ass highness” but if you can’t, you are just another guy with analcraniumosis.

    How does your “pretty chart” incorporate public debt and intragovernmental holdings? If you don’t know the answer to this, you need to stop staring at pretty little charts and educate yourself a little.

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