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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    So if a flat tax is fair, call it their realistic share, not their fair share.

    If a wealthy man's fair share is 50% of his income, so is a poor man's.
    I said wealth, not income.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Frankly, I don't see the downside.
    That should be your tipoff that you don't have all the facts. No matter how good a plan may be, there is always a downside. If you can't figure it out, then that simply means you either refuse to see it or your information sources are so biased that you are unable to see it.

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Libertarinan?…yeah right
    Libertarian means favoring individaul rights. It doesn't mean sabotaging the governement to the point that corporations possess more rights than the individual.

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Argue for a higher capital gains tax then.
    I do but that is just one tax cut for the wealthy that needs to be addressed.


    Most of the people in the top tax bracket are not the people with the 400 highest incomes and do NOT make the majority of their income through capital gains.
    You referenced the super wealthy. I didn't.
    I would agree we need to restablish the tax brackets for the super wealthy. But I also think those that make more than $250,000 can afford to pay more in percentage than the middle class.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Sticking a gun to someone's head is never justified. Pointing to someone else and saying, see, they're doing well with your money! while still sticking a gun to their heads doesn't justify it, either.
    If you are not interested in maintaining a middle class and wish to return to the days of a two class system that would make sense. I choose a strong middle class. Our wise forefathers instituted a progressive tax system for 80 years to provide a stong middle class, which it did, until it was slashed by Reagan and Bush.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

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    CBO and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) estimate that enacting both pieces of legislation will produce a net reduction in federal deficits of $143 billion over the 2010-2019 period.
    yup, at a cost of more than three quarters of a trillion in new taxes

    YouTube - President Obama's Pledge Never to Raise Taxes on Anyone Making Less Than $250,000 a Year

    CBO and JCT estimate that by 2019, the two pieces of legislation combined will reduce the number of nonelderly people who are uninsured by about 32 million, leaving about 23 million nonelderly residents
    yup, while simultaneously cutting medicare by a full half tril

    remember the bbc report this week

    BBC News - Surgeons raise alarm over waiting

    "months waiting in pain"

    "delayed operations"

    "new restrictions on who qualifies"

    you need to be "more disabled or in greater pain"

    20 billion pounds beneath

    routine operations "delayed until the end of the fiscal year"

    "although a patient might be waiting longer this isn't recorded in the official waiting statistics, another way of adding invisible waiting time into the system"

    "cruel and devastating"

    why did the slasher pick berwick as HEALTH CZAR, an open proponent of RATIONING

    YouTube - Donald Berwick on Redistributing Wealth

    why does weiner wanna waiver

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Frankly, I don't see the downside.
    few care what you do or don't see

    these people must see something

    Helping Americans Keep the Coverage They Have and Promoting Transparency | HHS.gov

    sebelius must see it too, else why let em go

    weiner sees something

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What would be fair and what would be realistic are two different things. To be fair everyone should pay the the same percentage of their total wealth in taxes. That was the progressive tax system that for 80 years created the strongest middle class in our history. What is realistic are the tax rates under Clinton, and closing the loopholes that allow some to avoid their taxes.
    Each year, paying a percent of your wealth? I'm flabbergasted. That's got to be one of the most socialist things I've ever heard.
    It'd be fair for each year to someone walk away with what you own. No, that's got to be one of the least fair things I've ever heard.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I do but that is just one tax cut for the wealthy that needs to be addressed.




    I would agree we need to restablish the tax brackets for the super wealthy. But I also think those that make more than $250,000 can afford to pay more in percentage than the middle class.
    They can probably afford to, but why should they? They already pay more.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    But I also think those that make more than $250,000 can afford to pay more in percentage than the middle class.
    when do you expect hurryup harry to move
    Last edited by The Prof; 04-18-11 at 02:31 AM.

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