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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Actually, I'd like to give back this special tax deal the government gave me. I'll give back those "tax breaks beyond what the middle class got" and just pay the same top marginal rate as someone who makes 82,400 - I'll pay 25%. There, my "super special deal" is gone.

    Somehow, I felt like this special deal I got from the government was screwing me over.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am all for cutting our military spending that is almost as much as the rest of the world combined, as well as our optional wars.
    tell it to khadafi and karzai

    But why would you reduce your income if you are having trouble paying your bills.
    ask the slasher and hurryup harry

    but be prepared to wait for their answer

    Joe Sixpack doesn't make $250,000 a year
    joe sixpack is gonna have to pay his share of the more than three quarters of a trillion dollars in new taxes contained in obamacare, according to cbo early this year (link above)

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Too bad we didn't have a liberal to choose from in the last presidential election, isn't it?

    Only consolation is the other guy would have also had us at war with Iran as well
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Actually they agree the cap needs to be raised.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    I hope the Republicans succeed. Their notion that a smaller government is a better government is just as annoying and naive as the liberal's notion that a bigger government is a better government. Nothing would awaken this country to the idiocy of leading by blind ideology than a flood of starving poor, elderly, and sick unlike has been seen since the Great Depression.

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    joe sixpack is gonna have to pay his share of the more than three quarters of a trillion dollars in new taxes contained in obamacare, according to cbo early this year (link above)

    As I see it we have been presented two options:

    Option A: Cut spending and raise taxes on the rich.
    Option B: Draconian cuts to entitlement programs and tax cuts for the rich.

    It's funny when you are talking about paying a "fair share". If we knew how to calculate fair shares, then life would be quite simpler. If I have a billion dollars, then I could ask my company to pay me 12 cents a year and I'll live an incredibly comfortable life off of the company perks but project very little income. What would be my fair share of taxes? Joe sixpack certainly doesn't have the options I have and he may actually end up paying more taxes than I do.

    I think what we have to do when it comes to an economic crisis is look at distribution of wealth. If 400 people own half the wealth of the country, then arguing about who pays more taxes on the bottom half won't make a lot of difference.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I hope the Republicans succeed. Their notion that a smaller government is a better government is just as annoying and naive as the liberal's notion that a bigger government is a better government. Nothing would awaken this country to the idiocy of leading by blind ideology than a flood of starving poor, elderly, and sick unlike has been seen since the Great Depression.
    I think you are nave if you think draconian cuts in government spending aren’t absolutely essential right now. The recession is going to get worse no matter what we do but if we don’t cut spending in a massive way, it won’t just be the poor, elderly and sick who are starving. Guess where that will leave the poor, elderly and sick?

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is unadulterated crap.
    If so, prove me wrong by showing that the middle class got bigger tax breaks than the top tax class over the last 30 years if you can?

    I love how the socialists want to compare marginal rates with the confiscatory top margins due to WWII and ignore the share of the tax burden the rich shoulder and Ignore the fact that for more than half our country's history the tax rates on the rich's income was far far far lower than it is today
    As of Sept 2010 we had spent $1.121 trillion dollars on our wars on terror, not counting the long term health costs for the tens of thousands wounded. Why should the rich get a by on supporting theses wars as they didn't for WWII?
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    the people getting a break are the people who have the exact same citizenship benefits as we do and don't pay any federal income taxes
    You want to trade places with them? I didn't think so. Than stop whining about how hard the rich people have it, when they have enjoyed massive tax breaks for the last 30 years.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If so, prove me wrong by showing that the middle class got bigger tax breaks than the top tax class over the last 30 years if you can?



    As of Sept 2010 we had spent $1.121 trillion dollars on our wars on terror, not counting the long term health costs for the tens of thousands wounded. Why should the rich get a by on supporting theses wars as they didn't for WWII?
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    You want to trade places with them? I didn't think so. Than stop whining about how hard the rich people have it, when they have enjoyed massive tax breaks for the last 30 years.
    Those tax breaks still make them pay more than everybody else.

    If you want to claim the tax breaks were unjustified, first show that the outrageous and disparate initial tax rates were justified.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Because this is NOT about you as an individual. It is about a societal program for America and Americans. 93% of American workers pay FICA tax on 100% of their earnings. All workers should.
    That may be fair but its just not going to happen, and is not necessary to solve the SS problem. It would only take raising the cap by a small percentage along with locking the funds legislatively so they can't be used to offset other government spending.
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