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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yes it is. It is not unusual to have to fine tune and repair things from time to time Social Security is no different.

    Currently 93% of American workers pay FICA tax on 100% of their income. All we need to do is make 100% of American workers pay fica tax on 100% of their income while freezing benefits to todays level plus inflation and the problem is pretty much solved.
    Oh cool, so I should just quintuple what I'm paying now, not see any increases in benefits - that's cool right? Especially when I'm already not going to see most of what I put in?

    I see no reason why I should be paying for 5-6 other peoples' retirements.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    House passes huge GOP budget cuts, opposing Obama - Yahoo! News

    Republicans controlling the House pushed to passage on Friday a bold but politically dangerous budget blueprint to slash social safety net programs like food stamps and Medicaid and fundamentally restructure Medicare health care for the elderly.

    The choice in the next election is becoming more and more clear. There is no question which party represents the interests of the wealthy and which party represents the interests of the rest of the country.

    The GOP fought hard earlier to preserve tax cuts for those making over 250K. Today they showed how they want to pay for those cuts...by slashing money from food stamps, medicaid and medicare.

    The GOP war on the elderly, the poor and the working class continues....
    There have been so many voters' remorse that those in Congress will quickly try any trick in the book to get their for the rich agenda passed so if they lies in campaign ads don't get them back in, they will at least have served their masters well and may be rewarded with lobbyists jobs for mega corporations.
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    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    When you have high debt and cut your revenue how does that help things?
    when you have hi debt and refuse to touch it...

    the slasher's entire position on entitlement reform as stated in his great speech, his excellent speech last wednesday---beef up the independent advisory board and regularize the fed/state schedule per medicaid (the ghetto of health care)

    We also need to raise the FICA caps to make up for what the govenment has stolen from the SS funds.
    so joe sixpack has to pay for bureacratic larceny?

    thanks a lot, delano

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    when you have hi debt and refuse to touch it...

    the slasher's entire position on entitlement reform as stated in his great speech, his excellent speech last wednesday---beef up the independent advisory board and regularize the fed/state schedule per medicaid (the ghetto of health care)



    so joe sixpack has to pay for bureacratic larceny?

    thanks a lot, delano
    Bureaucratic larceny is how you describe the only solvent and guaranteed retirement program in this nation? If it weren't for every president stealing monies from the Social Security fund, the most being Bush the lesser, this would not be an issue.
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    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Show me any private insurance company that administers health insurance more cheaply than the govenment administers M/M?
    americans on medicaid fare worse---longer stays, higher costs and mortalities---than their neighbors with NO INSURANCE

    ASA: ASA 130th Annual Meeting Abstracts - Primary Payer Status Affects Mortality For Major Surgical Operations

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    when you have hi debt and refuse to touch it...

    the slasher's entire position on entitlement reform as stated in his great speech, his excellent speech last wednesday---beef up the independent advisory board and regularize the fed/state schedule per medicaid (the ghetto of health care)



    so joe sixpack has to pay for bureacratic larceny?

    thanks a lot, delano
    The ghetto of healthcare is Illegal immigrants flooding our emergency rooms on our dime getting pregnant in mexico and running over the border for us to pay not only for the birth but any problems that may arise with it ALL FOR FREE...and our wonderful 30-45 rich spoiled teaparty brats havent even mentioned it...because it would make the corporate farmers mad at them and all the employers that enjoy pocketing additional profit for paying peanuts to illegals and none of the taxs....we have a real thing going here dont we prof

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    americans on medicaid fare worse---longer stays, higher costs and mortalities---than their neighbors with NO INSURANCE

    ASA: ASA 130th Annual Meeting Abstracts - Primary Payer Status Affects Mortality For Major Surgical Operations
    That's not what your data says

    Objectives: Medicaid and Uninsured populations are a significant focus of current healthcare reform. We hypothesized that outcomes following major surgical operations in the United States is dependent on primary payer status.
    Methods: From 2003-2007, 893,658 major surgical operations were evaluated using the Nationwide Inpatient Sample (NIS) database: lung resection, esophagectomy, colectomy, pancreatectomy, gastrectomy, abdominal aortic aneurysm repair, hip replacement, and coronary artery bypass. Patients were stratified by primary payer status: Medicare (n=491,829), Medicaid (n=40,259), Private Insurance (n=337,535), and Uninsured (n=24,035). Multivariate regression models were applied to assess outcomes.
    Results: Unadjusted mortality for Medicare (4.4%, OR= 3.51), Medicaid (3.7%, OR: 2.86) and Uninsured (3.2%, OR: 2.51) patient groups were higher compared to Private Insurance groups (1.3%, p<0.001). Moreover, mortality was lowest for Private Insurance patients independent of operation. Importantly, after controlling for age, gender, income, geographic region, operation, and 30 comorbid conditions, Medicaid payer status was associated with the longest length of stay and highest total costs (p<0.001). In addition, Medicaid (p<0.001) and Uninsured (p<0.001) payer status independently conferred the highest adjusted risks of mortality (Table 1).
    Private insurance people seem to die more often from the same type of healthcare treatments that Medicare and Medicaid get.
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    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    That's not what your data says



    Private insurance people seem to die more often from the same type of healthcare treatments that Medicare and Medicaid get.

    I have no idea what you base that on

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We can also end our optional wars
    Robert Gates: U.S. Troops could stay in Iraq past end date - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

    Obama sends 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan - World - CBC News

    Obama: Libya no-fly zone, embargo succeeding - CBS News

    and corporate welfare to those companies not creating jobs here in this country.
    Obama Picks Jeffrey Immelt, GE CEO, To Run New Jobs-Focused Panel As GE Sends Jobs Overseas, Pays Little In Taxes

    leadership, anyone?

    when do you think the slasher will put his tax-the-rich plan on paper?

    before or after his next great speech?

    americans want SOLUTIONS

    service on the debt, MERE INTEREST ALONE, is racing towards ONE TRILLION per

    News Headlines

    not even the rich are that rich

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    The ghetto of healthcare is Illegal immigrants flooding our emergency rooms on our dime getting pregnant in mexico and running over the border for us to pay not only for the birth but any problems that may arise with it ALL FOR FREE...and our wonderful 30-45 rich spoiled teaparty brats havent even mentioned it...because it would make the corporate farmers mad at them and all the employers that enjoy pocketing additional profit for paying peanuts to illegals and none of the taxs....we have a real thing going here dont we prof
    No, ghetto healthcare is Wal-Mart paying such low wages that their employees qualify for and are encouraged by the corporation to get Medicaid.
    Alex Carey:

    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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