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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    from the intro to andrew cuomo's state of the state: "in government, as in life, you can never solve a problem if you refuse to acknowledge it"

    america needs massive budget reform

    the president has no plan, only stump speeches

    when he actually has something, hurry-up-harry will act

    ie, don't hold your breath

    meanwhile, we're borrowing on the order of another hundred bil every two weeks

    it is what it is

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Then again, since the Mayor has been discussing the unconstitutional spending and not saying word one about the Constitutionality of taxes (having read the Constitution, the Mayor is aware that there were amendments that damaged the Republic before the 17th Amendment killed the Republic.)
    None of our spending has been found to be unconstitutional under the rule of law.


    The issue is not a tax issue, the issue is the spending and the issue about the spending is that almost all of the spending is in direct violation of the Constitution.
    When you have high debt and cut your revenue how does that help things? I agree we also need to cut spending. We need to cut our military spending back to defense only and we need to end our optional wars. We also need to cut our corporate welfare. We also need to raise the FICA caps to make up for what the govenment has stolen from the SS funds.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Riiiiight.

    The advantage payments are being frozen this year and then gradually reduced and the payments to doctors were not cut, a bill was passed afterward, pushed by the President no less, that restored the payments.

    You guys should follow the issues more, instead of getting caught up in the intentions.
    You all got played.
    Again from your link:

    "There are no cuts to the traditional Medicare benefit. The lion's share of spending cuts are in Medicare Advantage -- a program that uses private firms such as Humana and UnitedHealth Group to deliver Medicare benefits."
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

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    the same thing that happens when you make tens of trillions of dollars of empty promises to members of social security and medicare, to public employees concerning their pensions which are collectively two point five trillion dollars short

    if soc sec and the m's are such wonderful programs, then why are they killing us
    All that needs to be done is raise the FICA cap and lock the SS funds legislativily and problem solved. There is no crisis.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    ah, efficiency
    Show me any private insurance company that administers health insurance more cheaply than the govenment administers M/M?
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We also need to raise the FICA caps to make up for what the govenment has stolen from the SS funds.
    It would make more sense for the government to cut from other places and pay it into SS, since they were willing to do the opposite before, rather than letting taxpayers cover it again.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    It would make more sense for the government to cut from other places and pay it into SS, since they were willing to do the opposite before, rather than letting taxpayers cover it again.
    The top tax class has been getting a large break on taxes for the last 30 years. If anyone should help make up the difference it should be them. We can also end our optional wars and corporate welfare to those companies not creating jobs here in this country.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The top tax class has been getting a large break on taxes for the last 30 years. If anyone should help make up the difference it should be them. We can also end our optional wars and corporate welfare to those companies not creating jobs here in this country.
    I think your comments lose credibility when just try to complain about tax breaks for just one group of people. If people were serious that the bush tax cuts can no longer be afforded then have some consistency in that view and abolish all of those cuts,not just the ones that do not effect you.

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    so social security can't keep the promises it made to citizens paying in hundreds of thousands of dollars over their working lives?

    that's a success?


    i liked jewels of the new deal, better
    Yes it is. It is not unusual to have to fine tune and repair things from time to time Social Security is no different.

    Currently 93% of American workers pay FICA tax on 100% of their income. All we need to do is make 100% of American workers pay fica tax on 100% of their income while freezing benefits to todays level plus inflation and the problem is pretty much solved.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The top tax class has been getting a large break on taxes for the last 30 years. If anyone should help make up the difference it should be them. We can also end our optional wars and corporate welfare to those companies not creating jobs here in this country.
    If they were getting a special break, it would make sense that they were paying more than everyone else and they are not.
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