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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Just for you rev. Just for you.

    Social Security Online - HISTORY: Vote tallies on 1935 law

    You right wing extremists rant and rail about Social Security and the New Deal. As I have said, it was enacted by both a majority of the members from BOTH parties and that includes Republicans.

    House vote 4/19/35 on passage of the Social Security Act

    Dems 284 - 15
    Rep 81 - 15 (thats over 80% of republican members voting FOR it.

    If that is not enough humble pie for you and Turtle to dine on jointly

    Senate vote on Social Security Act

    Dems 60 yes 1 no 8 not voting
    REP 16 yes - 5 no - 4 not voting (thats 2 of every 3 GOP Senators voting FOR Social Security passage
    Republican used to be more reasonable, back then they took the word "We" in the Preample correctly, today they've change it to "Me." Today they couldn't care less about the fellow Americans.


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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Republican used to be more reasonable, back then they took the word "We" in the Preample correctly, today they've change it to "Me." Today they couldn't care less about the fellow Americans.
    so you think spending like drunken sailors and buying votes with money we don't have is caring about fellow americans?



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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Come and go as you please??????

    What does that have to do with your inability to comprehend historical research and see that BOTH parties passed both Social Security and the Progressive Income tax?

    That is the issue here. Your resume - my resume - your education - my education - your degrees - my degrees have nothing to do with the facts presented in support of the issue.
    It would seem to me that past accomplishments tell something about who might have credibility. When you go hire someone, you don't all the names in a hat and pick one. You look at their experiences both in work and school. Past achievements while I agee are not a sole arbitor of future sucess but it is a decnt indicator.

    Watching you to go back and forth it would be illustrative to the rest of us to compare if you two want to do that. I for one would enjoy it.

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you think spending like drunken sailors and buying votes with money we don't have is caring about fellow americans?
    I must admit the team of Obama/Geithner and Bernanke have helped with my investments in SLV and GLD. So in a way hey are helping at least this American! My sense is that you may also done well finding a way to bet against the dollar the last year or so.

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I must admit the team of Obama/Geithner and Bernanke have helped with my investments in SLV and GLD. So in a way hey are helping at least this American! My sense is that you may also done well finding a way to bet against the dollar the last year or so.
    true-uncertainty creates opportunities

    my investment in ammo did well when obama came into office. 762X39 was selling like hotcakes along with 9mm



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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true-uncertainty creates opportunities

    my investment in ammo did well when obama came into office. 762X39 was selling like hotcakes along with 9mm
    I guess opportunities are whereever you can find them. I have to admit to never having bought any ammo.

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I guess opportunities are whereever you can find them. I have to admit to never having bought any ammo.
    a wholesaler I deal with noted that November 2008 was their best YEAR in a decade



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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    THE question of the 2012 campaign is gonna be---major entitlement reforms, do we need em or not?

    republicans say yes

    barack the slasher says no

    seeya at the polls, pals

    My problem with it Prof is that in ryans plan the rich and corporations get pleasure everyone else takes the pain of debt reduction

    Take out the 26% tax cut for the highest income bracket and corporations and still get rid of deductions for them..and I believe the plan can pass...its quite obvious that ryan and the teaparty are trying to pull a fast one and give the bigshots another big tax DECREASE at the middle class expense.
    There is no sharing the pain in Ryans plan...its all SS Medicare and Medicaid recipients...
    Moratorium on ALL foriegn aid tell were out of debt would be nice and an assault on illegal immigration would be nice along with their assault on public workers and everyones pension and health plan....
    The teaparty and its supporters need to realize just how many middle class republicans there are...the gop cant afford to lose to many of them.

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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    LOL--more mindless drivel

    tax cuts to the group that now pays more of the federal tax burden than any time in the last 70 years causes deficits but 47%of the population paying no federal income taxes and in many cases voting for more and more spending doesn't cause these problems?

    As usual, you completely ignore history. Taxes for the wealthy are the lowest they have been in over half a century. Our debt problems began when the taxes for the wealthy were slashed and will only begin to be addressed when the wealthy begin paying their fair share again.
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    Re: House passes huge GOP budget cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    As usual, you completely ignore history.
    That is pretty much spot on as to how Turtle thinks.

    Taxes for the wealthy are the lowest they have been in over half a century. Our debt problems began when the taxes for the wealthy were slashed and will only begin to be addressed when the wealth begin paying their fair share again.
    Not so sure about that. Even with a trillion dollars in revenue reduction from the tax cuts, the projected decline in debt even after Clinton's accounting fraud would have left us on a pretty solid financial footing. What really screwed us over was Iraq. Not to mention Bush's runaway socialist medicare drug bill. The one his adminstration blackmailed the FDA into lying to the public about the costs of .
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