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    Re: CA Senate bill mandates gay history in schools

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    But the basics are not being compromised by teaching things like this. The basics should be learned in elementary school, and they should be expanded on in middle, and high school. They should know about LGBT history, just like they should know about black history, about European history, about asian history, about all of history. We should teach our kids to think critically, and demand the best from our kids, not just expect them to know the basics and move on, that is why the school system is in the mess it is in now. We should demand more not less.
    The basics are already compromised as evidenced by the kinds of students we are graduating and how poorly they perform compared to the rest of the world. When we have teaching the basics up to par, then we can worry about all the extras. Gay history can wait for a bit.

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    Re: CA Senate bill mandates gay history in schools

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    The right wing are going to just love this.

    Do you agree with making this a mandatory part of the curriculum?

    I'm somewhat torn, mostly because I don't think gays should get preferential treatment. If things are going to shape up in this direction, then wouldn't it make sense to include things like black history?

    I do believe that gays are unnecessarily censored from the history books. In college I took a course about gay and feminist history and I was shocked by the amount of material that nobody has any idea about. For example, some of the world's major inventors, world leaders, CEOs, etc. were gay and had partners, yet we never hear about them. Perhaps it is time for the revisionism to end.
    And we actually scratch our heads and wonder why we spend more than any other nation on education but are falling behind.. ??

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    Re: CA Senate bill mandates gay history in schools

    YS...what is gay history please?
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    Re: CA Senate bill mandates gay history in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Nonplussed View Post
    The basics are already compromised as evidenced by the kinds of students we are graduating and how poorly they perform compared to the rest of the world. When we have teaching the basics up to par, then we can worry about all the extras. Gay history can wait for a bit.
    The reason idiots graduate is because elementary schools fail to hold most kids back for not learning the basics, due to the teaching not wanting their pass/fail rate to take a hit, not giving a damn, or not wanting to hurt the kids self esteem. Like I said, the kids should know the basics by elementary school, and if they don't know the basics, they shouldn't leave elementary schools. Middle, and High schools should expand on the basics that are taught in elementary school. This isn't about LGBT history, this is about teaching history competently, and you can't do that without teaching LGBT history. Like I said, we should demand more of our students, not less. Just teaching them the basics, and moving them out of schools is not the solution.
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    Re: CA Senate bill mandates gay history in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Nonplussed View Post
    The basics are already compromised as evidenced by the kinds of students we are graduating and how poorly they perform compared to the rest of the world. When we have teaching the basics up to par, then we can worry about all the extras. Gay history can wait for a bit.
    Just because some kids do not learn things does not mean they are not being taught. Quite the opposite, since many kids do in fact learn the basics.
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    Re: CA Senate bill mandates gay history in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    YS...what is gay history please?
    I would guess anything relating involving the LGBT rights movement. But I don't think we should teach "gay history" per say, we should just teach history competently, and to do that, you have to acknowledge LGBT people.
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    Re: CA Senate bill mandates gay history in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just because some kids do not learn things does not mean they are not being taught. Quite the opposite, since many kids do in fact learn the basics.
    The problem lies with passing the kids that don't learn the basics, not that we aren't teaching them in lieu of other things.
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    Re: CA Senate bill mandates gay history in schools

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    The problem lies with passing the kids that don't learn the basics, not that we aren't teaching them in lieu of other things.
    That is a problem, certainly, but not the only one.
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    Re: CA Senate bill mandates gay history in schools

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    The problem lies with passing the kids that don't learn the basics, not that we aren't teaching them in lieu of other things.
    I think the point he was making and I am making is, what the hell for? ANY time taken away from learning essential things is time wasted, and THIS one seems like a waste of time, with little if any actual educational value.


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    Re: CA Senate bill mandates gay history in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I think the point he was making and I am making is, what the hell for? ANY time taken away from learning essential things is time wasted, and THIS one seems like a waste of time, with little if any actual educational value.


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    So your saying history has no educational value?

    Also what would you consider essential?
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