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    Re: Sea-based Missile Defense Flight Test Results in Successful Intercept

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I think people tend to forget that there's a difference between research on IRBM defense and ICBM defense. It's the second one that is a serious concern for Russia/US relations, not the first. (there's also a monumental difference in the engineering difficulties)

    Figuring out how to shoot down North Korea's duct-taped Taepodongs is fine and dandy, but upsetting the MAD situation between the US and Russia could be basically suicide.
    No. MAD is suicide. Creating the necessary missile defenses the Constitution actually requires the government to build ("provide for the common defence", not "kill the enemy after they murder us".) doesn't destabilize anything, unless the Russians are already intending to attack us, anyway.

    No, if the Russians and now the Chinese decide they don't like that the US is building an effective missile defense and they don't have one, their choice is clear:

    They have to build their own missile defenses.

    The Mexican stand off of MAD is, of course, madness. It's Agent Starling in the dark basement with Buffalo Bill, playing hide and seek.

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    Re: Sea-based Missile Defense Flight Test Results in Successful Intercept

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    How long until the Chinese manage to steal this???
    The Chinese won't. Certainly Obama will hand it to them if asked. Clinton certainly tried to give away the store, and Obama hates the US even more.

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    Re: Sea-based Missile Defense Flight Test Results in Successful Intercept

    Then again, American schools have done more damage to Americans than nuclear weapons have so far.

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    Re: Sea-based Missile Defense Flight Test Results in Successful Intercept

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Then again, American schools have done more damage to Americans than nuclear weapons have so far.
    How can we teachers teach kids when their parents don't push their kids to do homework and instead let their kids play basketball all hours of the night???
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    Re: Sea-based Missile Defense Flight Test Results in Successful Intercept

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Then again, American schools have done more damage to Americans than nuclear weapons have so far.
    I would have to agree in part but feel the need to qualify it by pointing the blame at teachers’ unions instead.

    Iteresting point though considering one of the original repliers to this thread wondered how many schools we could build with the money we spend on missile defense.

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    Re: Sea-based Missile Defense Flight Test Results in Successful Intercept

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    How can we teachers teach kids when their parents don't push their kids to do homework and instead let their kids play basketball all hours of the night???
    You can fail them until they do the homework and learn the subject being taught.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Sea-based Missile Defense Flight Test Results in Successful Intercept

    How is social programs considered wasteful but this not?
    Why do we really "need" this?
    Is Russia, Canada, China, or Iran going to invade us soon or are we on the threat of being invaded by them?

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    Re: Sea-based Missile Defense Flight Test Results in Successful Intercept

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How is social programs considered wasteful but this not?
    Why do we really "need" this?
    Is Russia, Canada, China, or Iran going to invade us soon or are we on the threat of being invaded by them?
    The threat of being “invaded” by a missile is real but I wouldn’t put Russia or China very high on the list of possible threats and only a buffoon would consider Canada a threat.

    As to why this we should fund this vs social programs: Government is wasteful no matter what it does. Social programs aren’t constitutionally mandated but programs like this are. Besides, even if the government were capable of running every social program under the sun with 99% efficiency, they would all be worthless if/and when a nuke hit a major city.

    Take your buddy Hugo Chavez as an example. If he builds utopia in Venezuela but the USA decides to bomb him into the stone age, his utopian programs will be pretty worthless at that point won’t they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Sea-based Missile Defense Flight Test Results in Successful Intercept

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    The threat of being “invaded” by a missile is real but I wouldn’t put Russia or China very high on the list of possible threats and only a buffoon would consider Canada a threat.

    As to why this we should fund this vs social programs: Government is wasteful no matter what it does. Social programs aren’t constitutionally mandated but programs like this are. Besides, even if the government were capable of running every social program under the sun with 99% efficiency, they would all be worthless if/and when a nuke hit a major city.

    Take your buddy Hugo Chavez as an example. If he builds utopia in Venezuela but the USA decides to bomb him into the stone age, his utopian programs will be pretty worthless at that point won’t they?
    Still we already spend 687,105,000,000, which is 4.7% of the GDP. China comes in second wayyyy behind us 114,300,000,000 which is only 2.2% of their GDP. Do we really "need" to do this. No matter what it states in the constitution that does not excuse the grave amount we spend on defense. Hell when our country was on the red button during the height of the cold way we did not even spend this much!
    The question is there is really not red hot rhetoric which was going on during the Cold War.. We waste so much money on defense why not help people out?
    It seems like its ok to spend money on weapons that are meant to kill people but its the most grave evil to spend money on programs that will help people out.
    Well Chavez does not spend a ridiculous amount of money on Defense sooo yea.. Yea they would be worthless, but im guessing the US does not want to start a nuclear war by bombing Valenzuela into the stone ages.. Or nor do i think no one is going to Nuke the USA, mainly because once one nuke is dropped then the end of the world in my opinion is just done for.

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    Re: Sea-based Missile Defense Flight Test Results in Successful Intercept

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    How long until the Chinese manage to steal this???
    They won't have to steal it. Corporations are loyal to the strong currency and the renminbi is really comin' on. Corporations are in business to make money and if the Chinese offer the top dollar, they will own the technology. That is the American Corporate way. They don't live and breathe and I don't notice anything about patriotism in an accounting ledger. The sad facts!

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