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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Ok.

    I stepped away from the racism.

    My point is.

    Those who attack Obama on his citizenship are 99.9% of the Right wing persuasion.

    Not people to usually go after "their" own president.

    We can't say what really might have happened if McCain were president, but my guess his citizenship would not have been an issue, that's my only point.
    We can look at what happened to Bush and make a pretty safe bet. Remember, Bush was AWOL, stole the election, either let 9/11 happen or planned it himself, and was a war criminal.
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We can look at what happened to Bush and make a pretty safe bet. Remember, Bush was AWOL, stole the election, either let 9/11 happen or planned it himself, and was a war criminal.
    Meh, I think a Republican president after Bush would have never heard the end of Bush's crap to be honest.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, how many non-American presidents have we had? When was it ever an issue before? Seriously, an issue?
    All post grandfather clause presidents were natural born citizens. Several (Buchanan, Hoover and Wilson) had a parent that was foreign born but they became naturalized U.S. citizens before they were born. With them now having two parents (plural) who were U.S. citizens at their births, they were born natural born citizens. Now one exception that has been rumoured who slipped through possibly was Chester Arthur in 1885 when Garfield was shot. He was said to have been born in Vermont or Canada but his dad was born in Ireland. Arthur wouldn't show his records and there issues of his eligibility back then. It was later that it was rumored that Arthurs dad was naturalized when Chester was 14 thus if that was the case then Chester was never eligible and was a British dual citizen but that is no excuse today for Obama because of Athur. The founders would have never let Arthur take office.
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Yeah and once he showed it, that was it, end of story.

    Obama has shown is, it tells you WHERE he was born and WHEN.

    If you're not satisfied along with the newspaper accounts then I'm sorry, but I can't help you
    Sorry but the problem is that Obama's father was not a citizen. If Obama was born in the Lincoln bedroom he wouldn't be a natural born citizen and eligible for Article 2 Section 1. He was born a dual British Citizen. That was never the intent of the founders at the adoption of our constitution especially after we just finished a war with England. There was no way they were going to take a chance for a future president to be born with a allegiance to another nation.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Apuzo View Post
    All post grandfather clause presidents were natural born citizens. Several (Buchanan, Hoover and Wilson) had a parent that was foreign born but they became naturalized U.S. citizens before they were born. With them now having two parents (plural) who were U.S. citizens at their births, they were born natural born citizens. Now one exception that has been rumoured who slipped through possibly was Chester Arthur in 1885 when Garfield was shot. He was said to have been born in Vermont or Canada but his dad was born in Ireland. Arthur wouldn't show his records and there issues of his eligibility back then. It was later that it was rumored that Arthurs dad was naturalized when Chester was 14 thus if that was the case then Chester was never eligible and was a British dual citizen but that is no excuse today for Obama because of Athur. The founders would have never let Arthur take office.
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Apuzo View Post
    Arthur wouldn't show his records and there issues of his eligibility back then.
    I would like to see where you learned this particular tidbit. If you don't mind.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    How do you know what the founders would do?
    That was never the intent of the founders at the adoption of our constitution especially after we just finished a war with England. There was no way they were going to take a chance for a future president to be born with a allegiance to another nation, especially England. Use common sense and put yourself in their shoes.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Apuzo View Post
    (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))
    What is the Cong. Globe?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Apuzo View Post
    No. It's not about race. Eisenhower had to show his birth certificate. He was white.
    He did NOT have to show his COLB or whatever. Further, based on the link you provided, his birth certificate didn't exist at all anywhere until he was 60 years old.

    The Eisenhower case proves that a simple birth certificate is ample to prove one's eligibility to be PotUSA.
    I may be wrong.

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