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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    To say race isn't an issue is a fallacy I think. He's black with a funny name from a far away state.

    Yes I don't think race is a predominant factor.

    If his name was CJ Johnson from Compton I'm sure no one would have said a thing.

    But it strikes me as inbalanced a black guy called Barack Hussein Obama is the first one ever to be singled out like this, THE FIRST AND ONLY one.

    That is all.
    Quick quiz.. who was the 1st person to say that about Barack Obama during the election. The answer is in the question.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Read, Jet, read!!! McCain went before a Congressional committee regarding his birthplace. John McCain sounds pretty WASPY to me. This has absolutely nothing to do with the color of his skin.
    It was found out last year that Eisenhower, who was white had to show his birth certificate to be eligible.

    Ike needed birth certificate to run for president / September 22, 2010 / Sonoran News

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Quick quiz.. who was the 1st person to say that about Barack Obama during the election. The answer is in the question.
    I'm pretty sure he said that way before the election. It was in that famous speech he made at the DNC convention for Kerry I think. What's your point?

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Does anybody honestly think even this law would make the birthers shut the **** up? Or avoid a similar situation in the future?

    Tinfoil hatters who aren't satisfied by proof in a court of law aren't going to be satisfied by anything. Current law is more than sufficient to settle the question for any candidate to the satisfaction of a reasonable person. Why bother pandering to the unreasonable crowd?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Newspaper articles give the address of his parents:

    The newspaper birth announcements only say that a baby was born, not where. Back in 1961 you could have foreign births and the state would issue a 3rd kind of birth certificate for that purpose. Once the dept of health was notified of the birth via a office visit by the relative or mail in form, a vital record was created thus triggering the birth announcements.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, some would be discussing it. It was an issue, and it only died because he lost the election. If people act the same no matter what race, it is not racism.
    Tell me, of what political affiliation are the people that are birthers?

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I agree. I'm over this whole "race isn't an issue in the birther argument" thing. It's definitely a factor along with his name, his father's birthplace, etc.
    I think politics is a bigger issue for the birther argument.

    I do think that race is a factor in people who think he's a Muslim. If a white guy named Barry O'Bama said "I'm a Christian," would anybody doubt it?

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    I'd also like this opportunity to ask this rather important question.

    How does coming out of a pussy in Detroit make one more qualified to lead the United States?

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Since Kenya itself does not recognize dual citizenship, it would never have conferred Kenyan citizenship on someone born in Hawaii who is already an American citizen, even though the father had Kenyan citizenship. Therefore, Obama has only one citizenship - American.
    Wrong.

    From Obama's own website:

    “As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.”

    That last sentence proves Obama jr was born a dual citizen thus voiding his natural born citizenship despite being born in Hawaii.

    British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth."

    http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm

    So Obama has British Citizenship at the time of birth, that is a given. Did he gain citizenship to Kenya? Yes - via Chapter VI, Section 87(2):

    "(2) Every person who, having been born outside Kenya, is on
    11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or
    a British protected person shall, if his father becomes, or would but for
    his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1),
    become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963."

    But did becoming a Kenyan Citizen terminate British Citizenship? We look into the Kenyan Constitution and find - NO, it did not. See Chapter VI, Section 95(1):

    "95. (1) Every person who, under this Constitution or an Act of
    Parliament, is a citizen of Kenya or who, under any law for the time
    being in force in a country to which this section applies, is a citizen
    of that country shall, by virtue of that citizenship, have the status of a
    Commonwealth citizen."

    So, like the Thai president recently who admitted he was part British at birth, Obama has never renounced his British Citizenship gained at birth. He never 'automatically' lost it, even when Kenya became independent.

    The situations are basically identical.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I think politics is a bigger issue for the birther argument.

    I do think that race is a factor in people who think he's a Muslim. If a white guy named Barry O'Bama said "I'm a Christian," would anybody doubt it?
    The thing is the Muslim and birther arguments crossover a lot. Some people just question his citizenship - but in some of those questions come questions about whether he is also a Kenyan Muslim.

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