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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Never heard of him. He probably wasn't even on the federal government's radar because he didn't win and had no chance of winning. The states are in charge of balloting, the federal government is in charge of verifying federal requirements to be president.
    Are you sure about this? Care to provide evidence of this claim as it is quite central to the argument that this proposed Arizona law is not needed...
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Well, now we're talking about something different. You can be a natural-born citizen and not be born in the United States. If Arizona wanted to impose a requirement that all presidential candidates on the Arizona ballot were born in the United States, they'd probably run into some Equal Protection issues just for imposing that requirement.

    But as for PROVING natural-born citizenship: If certain classes of people are generally less able to provide that proof than others (due to their age, race, income level, or place of birth), it constitutes an undue burden and violates the Equal Protection clause.
    Does anyone know if a Consular Report of Birth would be accepted under the Arizona law? This is legally accepted as valid as any birth certificate issued in the United States of someone born a U.S. citizen.
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
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    No idea what your talking about.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    No idea what your talking about.
    You talked about "exorcizing" free religion. With the "o" it's like exorcism.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post

    I just think its dumb he didnt fix this once and for all a long time ago and shut everyone up
    Why should he care? And why should he shut everyone up. The way I see it, he benefits by Republicans and Conservatives sounding crazy. And now, thanks to Donald Trump, the Tea Party will likely become linked with the birfers.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post

    A specific exception was written into the Constitution for them that does not apply to President Obama...
    That exception separates naturalized Americans from natural born Americans.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That exception separates naturalized Americans from natural born Americans.
    no... it refers to people who were citizens when the Constitution came into effect... Obama isn't THAT old...
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Do any of you think Obama is a 'Native Born Citizen' instead of a 'Natural Born Citizen'?

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Apuzo View Post
    Do any of you think Obama is a 'Native Born Citizen' instead of a 'Natural Born Citizen'?
    I have yet to see any evidence that Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen, only speculation that he is not. Why should I believe something without any evidence to support it?

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Apuzo View Post
    Do any of you think Obama is a 'Native Born Citizen' instead of a 'Natural Born Citizen'?
    Are you suggesting he was un-naturally born? And Liberals get accused of thinking he's Jesus....

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