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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    What's the big deal? Obama is a natural born citizen. However the Clinton's did question it and more followed suit, making it a circus distracting from real issues. All the states should follow AZ and it will never happen again.
    Hardly. There was no legitmate reason for it to have ever been an issue this time. You can't legislate away stupid. Stupid will always find a way.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    On what grounds?
    The Full Faith and Credit clause, for starters. The state of Hawaii released Obama's birth certificate long ago, and certified it as genuine. If that isn't good enough for Arizona, it means that they are not giving full faith and credit to the documents of another state, which is unconstitutional.
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Apuzo View Post
    Yes I do have a link. It's called Fight The Smears:

    Fight the Smears: The Truth About Barack

    “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

    The last sentence confirms he was born a dual citizen.
    The "natural-born citizen" requirement just means that a person was a US citizen at the time of their birth. Any other citizenships they may ALSO have had at the time of their birth are irrelevant. Fun fact: We've already had a president who was a dual citizen of two countries. Anyone in the class know who it was?
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sad. Just sad.
    Only sad that it's not standard procedure at the Federal level. It's about time. Took over 200 years. Maybe that'll be part of Obama's legacy.
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Only sad that it's not standard procedure at the Federal level. It's about time. Took over 200 years. Maybe that'll be part of Obama's legacy.
    Really? We've had a ton of foriegn presidents have we? Seriously, Obama proved his birth, met the critieria, did all that should be required by anyone. The question is why what all have provided is not good enough for Obama? It begs a few real and honest questions.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Really? We've had a ton of foriegn presidents have we? Seriously, Obama proved his birth, met the critieria, did all that should be required by anyone. The question is why what all have provided is not good enough for Obama? It begs a few real and honest questions.
    The legislation isn't about President Obama. It's about all presidents. It's about time.
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Gee, another stupid bill from Arizona. What will President Obama need to do that he hasn't already done? Stupid Republicans.
    Of all people how can you call republicans stupid, is there a basis or just hatred. I have seen little in your posts that suggests substantive comments, just name calling. Don't you ever get bored writing insults, I am sort of getting used to your "style" of writing. To bad this is on the internet so you can't use crayons.

    Just so we are clear I am not saying you are stupid, just that your posting seem so similar as to not add as much as I am sure you can.
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The legislation isn't about President Obama. It's about all presidents. It's about time.
    This is OBVIOUSLY about President Obama. Let's not insult one another's intelligence by pretending otherwise.

    Hey I've got a great idea for a law! If any ex-governors of Massachusetts want to run for president, they have to prove that they've never been polygamous. Of course, I'm not referring to any SPECIFIC person, this is about all presidents.
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The legislation isn't about President Obama. It's about all presidents. It's about time.
    Again, how many non-American presidents have we had? When was it ever an issue before? Seriously, an issue?

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    FYI, for everyone. The AZ legislature's fundamental allegiance is to large businesses in the state, just as it is any other right wing state.

    The silly "birther" bill, along w/the other so-called anti-immigration bills, is nothing more than political posturing--legislation aimed at merely creating the impression in the minds of of the massively dumbed-down right wing electorate in AZ that the pols are actually interested in their moronic racist agenda, while being virtually ineffectual in practice.

    The birther bill obviously is not going to be enforced, and neither will any of the anti-immigration laws (which the cops know are detriment to their job in a state where so many Latinos live).
    I'm sure many Arizonans would find your use of the words anti-immigration laws offensive. Don't you think latinos would like to see immigration laws enforced too? They are being harmed by illegal immigration too. Granted, the way the media lied about what the laws actually were would give them pause, but the truth is, the bill would be to their benefit too.
    Why wouldn't the birther bill be enforced? It sure ought to be. To not be, would seem to be unconstitutional.
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