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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
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    Yes, the Mayor thinks that the Obama gang has had sufficient time to finally make a real fake birth certificate to replace the one they provided in 2008, but since any real-looking fake they provide will make the fake-looking fake they already provided look fake, the Obama administration and his cadre of Useful Idiots will be out in force protesting a state's right to set it's own ballot access requirements.
    So here's this Conspiracy. You've been planning since 1961 to make this kid born in Kenya the President of the United States. You've smuggled him into Hawaii, and convinced both major parties to go along with this Socialist scheme.....And nobody thought to make a fake long form Birth Certificate?

    This is the most inept conspiracy in history.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    If it's already done, then there's no reason for you to be whining about this law.
    Did the AZ house pass it already?
    Lat I heard, only the Senate had approved it.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Yes, the Mayor thinks that the Obama gang has had sufficient time to finally make a real fake birth certificate to replace the one they provided in 2008, but since any real-looking fake they provide will make the fake-looking fake they already provided look fake, the Obama administration and his cadre of Useful Idiots will be out in force protesting a state's right to set it's own ballot access requirements.
    So what's the point in providing the long form if it's not going to settle anything or change minds?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    All I have seen you post since you got here is conspiracy lunacy, and I have had enough of it.
    Well, to be fair there have also been incomplete quotes taken out of context mixed in with all that.
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You're assuming President Obama hasn't already done that? If so, why?
    Why? obviously PB theres still lingering doubt that for two years Obama has refused to make go away. He couldve put this to bed long long ago...but he has not. Well known liberals like Bob Beckel and others have called for Obama to prove his birthplace and get this over themselves and he will not.
    Im not a birther, hes been president over two years and hes already started running for his second term...I just think its dumb he didnt fix this once and for all a long time ago and shut everyone up

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Why? obviously PB theres still lingering doubt that for two years Obama has refused to make go away. He couldve put this to bed long long ago...but he has not.
    I just think its dumb he didnt fix this once and for all a long time ago and shut everyone up
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Yes, the Mayor thinks that the Obama gang has had sufficient time to finally make a real fake birth certificate to replace the one they provided in 2008, but since any real-looking fake they provide will make the fake-looking fake they already provided look fake, the Obama administration and his cadre of Useful Idiots will be out in force protesting a state's right to set it's own ballot access requirements.
    I think there's good reason to believe that showing whatever documentation would not "shut everyone up" and make it go away.
    There's just too much of thrill in thinking that you're on to something that the rest of the world/mainstream/whatever just doesn't get.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Yet the first few they elected were born British subjects.
    A specific exception was written into the Constitution for them that does not apply to President Obama...
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The law is unnecessary, I am sure when a candidate files to run for president, the candidate must file the proper documentation at the Federal level. Determining who can legally run for president is not a right states have.
    Can you confirm this to be the case? I would, in fact, be surprised if it is as the elections for ELECTORS are essentially state affairs and not an affair of the federal government...
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How in the **** do we, in this day and age, have "state recognized clergy"?
    sound's earily like China, doesn't it???
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Irrelevant. It's up to the FEDERAL government to determine if candidates meet the FEDERAL requirements for president. If individual STATES want to impose their own requirements in addition to these, they are able to do so (to a certain extent). So if Arizona wants to impose a natural-born citizenship requirement of its own, or a non-polygamy requirement of its own, it would probably be able to do so. Those two requirements would be functionally identical; the fact that the US Constitution requires one and not the other doesn't matter, because in this case it would be an individual state imposing them both.

    The problem the state will encounter lies in imposing an undue burden of proof on someone. You can't require a birth certificate if certain classes of eligible people are going to be less able to produce one than others.
    The state of Arizona is not imposing a new requirement to be president of the United States. It is merely codifying means to verify that said person actually meets the qualifications that are outlined in the Constitution of the United States. Elections for electors are STATE affairs and as such, the state has the right to verify that any candidate meets the requirements. No potential candidate who does NOT meet the requirements should be allowed to register in ANY state. This law merely gives election officials in the states the means to verify eligibility. Nothing more.
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