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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Apuzo View Post

    No, I mean who qualified him at the federal level to run to be president?
    Would you mind showing me where in the Constitution it stipulates one has to be a natural born citizen to "run" for president? All I can find is where that's a requirement to be eligible for the job. And no one runs at a "federal level," there's no "federal" election. States elect the president.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post

    You people are pretending this is about Obama simply because Obama's failure to produce a legitimate birth certificate prompted the law. If, as you people claim, Obama has a real birth certificate, can you explain what your problem is? You're failing to demonstrate any semblance of rational thought on this issue.
    Because it's basically written to exclude him. For example, it specifies that certification of a Baptism or ceremonial circumcision is acceptable. Now if a person's parents are an atheist and a not exactly practicing Muslim, what do you think the chances are that they are baptized as an infant, or circumcised by a Rabbi?

    Or a sworn statement from the doctor. 50 years later, there's a fairly decent chance that doctor is dead. So unless someone's parents have the foresight to think that their child might run for President and get that before leaving the hospital, that might not happen so well.

    Don't you think that if this was a great conspiracy, that they would have been able to whip up a fake long form certificate? So far, we've heard that the ENTIRE GOVERNMENT OF HAWAII is in on this. Including the Republican party. Assuming that were true, don't you think that both major parties and everybody that works for the State government would have been able to whip something up if they worked together on it?

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Oh I gotcha. Yeah I see your point.

    Free American citizenship with baptism? How would that one go over with the left?
    Not well, I assure you.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post

    Don't you think that if this was a great conspiracy, that they would have been able to whip up a fake long form certificate?
    If it were a conspiracy, I would imagine Obama would have gotten a fake certification of live birth before announcing he was running for president. Who in their right mind would announce they're running for president, knowing they're ineligible, and without being in firm possession of a fake certificate?

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

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    501c3 status requires you to report your employees. In order for a clergyman to, say, officiate a legally binding municipal marriage license, or commission as a chaplain officer, they have to demonstrate that they are an official member of a recognized church; recognized, as in recognized by the state.
    Which brings me back to my question: why does the state recognize a religious group and allow them to perform legal functions for that state? It's off topic, but the question just leaps out at me.
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Way to go, Apuzo! You made it a whole day in the original forum you posted! Three cheers to free speech! Hip hip hooray!

    And you're kicking ass!

    Congrats, dear.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Which brings me back to my question: why does the state recognize a religious group and allow them to perform legal functions for that state? It's off topic, but the question just leaps out at me.
    To enable the free exorcise of religion.

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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    To enable the free exorcise of religion.
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    Re: Associated Press: Arizona Senate Approves 'Birther' Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Do you not understand the nature of a plutocracy?
    It certainly seems like Mickey Mouse has been running the country since Reagan left office...

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