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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    10% less of what ? in tax cuts for the super rich...which can translate into a savings of hundreds of millions for billionaires while the the teaparty tells us the country is on the verge of collapse...if you people cant see the hypocrisy in that whether or not your republicans I dont know what to tell you...but I will tell you this...I wont blindly play follow the leader for anyone if I dont think its right..
    After were out of debt then give another tax cut to the richest americans.
    There you go, tax the rich. The rich people who went to school worked their asses off to become rich and give people jobs, now they have to SHARE their wealth with the LEACHES of society. BRAVO!!!! This is called Socialism.
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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I havent heard obamas speech, I dont have a clue whats in it...but I have paid very close attention to Paul Ryans and I am not afraid or ashamed to say I think it sucks.
    The middle class should pay more...but the RICH should not pay less until were out of debt....and I will also state publically that every week I pull further away from the teaparty. I sincerely hope you conservatives on here dont think that all republicans are bowing and idolizing all the teaparty ideals as you are.
    Right it sucks because it actually creates some pain and cuts overspending. You call for pain by all then support a plan that does nothing but penalize the rich and does nothing to cut the deficit or debt. How much revenue do you think you are going to get from the rich each year? What happens when the rich's personal income is reduced because of higher taxes? Who does that hurt or help? Here is something you and the liberals in this group don't want to address.

    The top 1% of wage earners make 20% of all income and pay 38% of all taxes.
    The top 5% of wage earners make 34.7% of all income and pay 58.7% of all taxes.
    The top 10% of wage earners make 45.8% of all income and pay 69.9% of all taxes.

    The bottom 50% make 12.8% of all income and pay 2.7% of all taxes.

    Currently approximately 47% of all Americans pay nothing and actually get money back making their tax rate negative.

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    if the teaparty wants to go far right they will eventually get spanked just like the far left did.
    i don't think ryan's exactly tea party, not by my view, at least

    ryan is more house leadership, i think

    our times are complex

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    There you go, tax the rich. The rich people who went to school worked their asses off to become rich and give people jobs, now they have to SHARE their wealth with the LEACHES of society. BRAVO!!!! This is called Socialism.

    Shush until you learn how to read someones post

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I doubt many Republicans are serious about doing anything other than winning the election for their party.
    the difference is the gop plan is ON PAPER

    it's real, it exists

    it's there for anyone with an ax to grind to hack at

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    But it's not up to the President to provide details.
    he's the head of his party

    his party in overmwhelming control of congress produced NO budget in 2011, NO senate reaction as yet to hr1 which is ON PAPER, and that dreadful, doa 2012 budget proposal which (completely outta touch) actually RAISES the deficit twenty percent (to 1.65T) and seems to operate under the amnesiac assumption that bowles-simpson (which he's been harping on for 2 years) don't exist, never did exist

    twilight zone, anyone?

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I did however over dramatize it.
    you come across as passionate, which you should be

    keep up the good work

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    i don't think ryan's exactly tea party, not by my view, at least

    ryan is more house leadership, i think

    our times are complex


    Prof, ryan is on the teaparty bandwagon. The teaparty 30-45 rich guys need to keep something in mind...there are numerous middleclass republicans just like me who make less than 150k.
    I fully understand the country is in debt. I fully understand something has to be done. I also know when the economy kicks back in tons more tax revenue will be collected federal and in states.
    The teaparty should be attacking illegal immigration that costs us untold billions, not a mention. Why arent they harping on a moratorium on ALL FOREIGN AID until our own house finances are right. Why arent they looking at the billions in subsidies to big corporations...everyone with a brain the size of a pea knows big oil shouldnt be getting a nickle in subsidies theyve been getting them for decades and we the people have gotten zero benefit except to watch their profits soar and their CEO get a 400 million retirement package...Im not talking class warfare here im talking the TRUTH. Im sick and tired of hearing the sameOle conservative and liberal talking points...both of them are broken BS records...Tax cuts for the rich creates jobs, The rich pay to much, Corporations need no regulations blah blah blah...and the left with all their garbage. Somewhere in the middle is the truth and thats where we have to get to be successful again and prosper.
    There should be NO MORE tax cuts for the Richest Americans until we are out of debt. Social Security and Medicare should be part of a package of cuts along with stopping illegal immigration and GIMMES for illegal immigrants as well as the end of outrageous giving countries our money that we BORROWED and subsidies to big corps to enhance CEO pay and BONUS..
    Lets all stop the bull**** please and be realistic and get the job done. We could do this with very little pain to any americans if we cut where ryans plan doesnt even GO. Thats my story and im stickin to it :

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    We have 50 states that do most of what the Federal Govt does so why the duplication?
    duplication:

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2...e-duplication/

    on march one, only 40 days ago, no less than the GOVT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE reported that it had found a full HALF TRILLION dollars of waste and duplication and fraud, mismanagement, corruption...

    LOST, a full half T---pfft

    further, "most of it came in fiscal years 09 and 10"

    moreover, MOST programs have never been "evaluated for efficiency"

    "little is known of the effectiveness of MOST (emphasis mine) programs"

    this is G-A-O talkin

    NO MORE MONEY for managers so morose

    the G-A-O also determined that CAP AND TRADE (which, thank the lord, is DEAD, america simply could not stand a BLOW like that to ENERGY in times like these) would COST the united states consumer an entire TWO HUNDRED BILLION per

    or 1800 dollars per household

    THIS is the real barack the slasher

    this is his HEART

    know the man
    Last edited by The Prof; 04-13-11 at 07:26 PM.

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    duplication:

    GAO Finds Massive Waste, Duplication - FoxBusiness.com

    on march one, only 40 days ago, no less than the GOVT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE reported that it had found a full HALF TRILLION dollars of waste and duplication and fraud, mismanagement, corruption...

    LOST, a full half T---pfft

    further, "most of it came in fiscal years 09 and 10"

    moreover, MOST programs have never been "evaluated for efficiency"

    "little is known of the effectiveness of MOST (emphasis mine) programs"

    this is G-A-O talkin

    NO MORE MONEY for managers so morose

    the G-A-O also determined that CAP AND TRADE (which, thank the lord, is DEAD, america simply could not stand a BLOW like that to ENERGY in times like these) would COST the united states consumer an entire TWO HUNDRED BILLION per

    or 1800 dollars per household

    THIS is the real barack the slasher

    this is his HEART

    know the man
    I have no use for obama..and I dont trust a single word he says....

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