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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    This kind of partisan tripe doesn't help anything either.
    10% less of what ? in tax cuts for the super rich...which can translate into a savings of hundreds of millions for billionaires while the the teaparty tells us the country is on the verge of collapse...if you people cant see the hypocrisy in that whether or not your republicans I dont know what to tell you...but I will tell you this...I wont blindly play follow the leader for anyone if I dont think its right..
    After were out of debt then give another tax cut to the richest americans.
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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Then perhaps you'd better lobby your Republican Congressmen and Senators to raise more taxes on the middle class. I'd really like to know how they'd respond to that.
    Wait, the middle class wants all these entilements, but it's politically unpopular to expect them to pay for it?

    Well, isn't that interesting. You just pulled the sheepskin off the wolf eh?

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Then perhaps you'd better lobby your Republican Congressmen and Senators to raise more taxes on the middle class. I'd really like to know how they'd respond to that.
    Everybody's got to share in the solution. If we're going to exempt the middle class, it ain't gunna get done. Why are you making this partisan??? It's not!!! What don't you get about that??? Our country is in the middle of a fiscal crisis. It is politicians who are being partisan. Can't we be smarter than they?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Who said the middle class is sacrosanct, YOU and only you said that, who said the middleclass shouldnt share the pain, I didnt...now ill ask you
    Who the hell are the richest americans to keep getting tax cuts when were BROKE and wanting the middle class and the poor to take hits..
    Paul Ryans plan is full of **** 25% straight up tax cut for Americans ONLY AT THE TOP RATE and the same for Corporations, this is AFTER the bush tax cuts are extended...then he and YOU want the middle class and the poor to pay more to fix the debt and give the rich more money....you people must think everyone is stupid.
    Ill say this again and stay tuned...if the teaparty wants to go far right they will eventually get spanked just like the far left did.
    You're enraged, aren't you? Deep breath. You'll hurt your keyboard. I said that the only thing I liked about Obama's speech was his intent to raise taxes on the richest 2% of Americans. Everyone is making this partisan. If we're going to fix this, it can't be partisan. Everyone's got to work together...and everyone's got to be willing to have an ox gored.

    • Social Security's retirement age has to go up.
    • Medicare's deductible has to be raised based on an income/asset progression.
    • Medicare's premium has to go up based on an income/asset progression.
    • Medicaid needs reform.
    • Those 71 million who don't pay any income tax ought to be paying a lousy $200 a year to live in the USA. Seems damned reasonable.
    • Corporations should have to pay a minimum tax. The idea that GE paid no Federal income tax is ludicrous.
    • And that fact leads to reforming our tax policies across the board...getting rid of deductions that bring millionaire earners down into the same bracket of someone who earns $100K.
    • People shouldn't be able to deduct mortgage interest on their second home.
    • People shouldn't be able to deduct real estate taxes on as many homes as they own.
    • People who can afford to own $100K automobiles ought to pay a luxury tax....on that and many other luxury items they buy.

    These are the kinds of tax cuts/revenue raisers I want to see. Not the nambie pambie smoke and mirrors Obama promises. And very little from the GOP plan. This is not partisan. It can't be anymore. And until the politicians "get it," we're just going to continue down the road to ruin.
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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    10% less of what ? in tax cuts for the super rich...which can translate into a savings of hundreds of millions for billionaires while the the teaparty tells us the country is on the verge of collapse...if you people cant see the hypocrisy in that whether or not your republicans I dont know what to tell you...but I will tell you this...I wont blindly play follow the leader for anyone if I dont think its right..
    Verge of collapse because of entitlements that those who want them, cannot afford. Well, yeah, it's obvious what needs to be done right?

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Perhaps he should have thought of that before the GOP took ownership. He just looks desperate now.
    It was a great speech, he didn't sound desperate to me at all.

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It was a great speech, he didn't sound desperate to me at all.
    Some people will always buy the rhetoric from this President. How about answering some of the tough questions raised in other posts on this thread?

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Wait, the middle class wants all these entilements, but it's politically unpopular to expect them to pay for it?

    Well, isn't that interesting. You just pulled the sheepskin off the wolf eh?
    No where did I say the middle class shouldnt pay...I said EVERYONE share the pain and keeping the richest americans tax rate the same doesnt make them pay more...it makes them pay the same and the increases are all on the middleclass

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Some people will always buy the rhetoric from this President. How about answering some of the tough questions raised in other posts on this thread?
    I havent heard obamas speech, I dont have a clue whats in it...but I have paid very close attention to Paul Ryans and I am not afraid or ashamed to say I think it sucks.
    The middle class should pay more...but the RICH should not pay less until were out of debt....and I will also state publically that every week I pull further away from the teaparty. I sincerely hope you conservatives on here dont think that all republicans are bowing and idolizing all the teaparty ideals as you are.

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It was a great speech, he didn't sound desperate to me at all.
    I'd say that it was a great speech if I was out of my freaking mind. There was no leadership and rhetoric galore. This guy was not serious at all except about himself. Same old crap as usual.
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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Verge of collapse because of entitlements that those who want them, cannot afford. Well, yeah, it's obvious what needs to be done right?
    What needs to be done is obvious...the portion of Paul Ryans plan to make the middle class pay more for medicare is fine...if you actually read paul ryans plan he extensively pounds the middle class with increases and costs...ok thats FINE TOO...whats not fine is taking all the from the middle class and give the richest americans a HUGE tax cut and corporations...
    I could post so many links that show CEOs are overpaid pigs at the trough...you whine about paying for SS and medicare but who pays for the CEO of Exxon Mobils 400 million retirement package...EVERYONE THAT BUYS gas at 4.00 a gallon so you me and everyone else pay for CEO multimillion dollar paydays....no tax cuts for the rich and most of paul ryans plan will float

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