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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Here is ryans proposal broken down maggie and you will see he wants to LOWER both the personal income tax rate and the corporate tax rate to 25% from 35% which is a full 25% reduction in the top earners income taxs.

    http://www.becker-posner-blog.com/20...salposner.html

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Who said the middle class is sacrosanct, YOU and only you said that, who said the middleclass shouldnt share the pain, I didnt...now ill ask you
    Who the hell are the richest americans to keep getting tax cuts when were BROKE and wanting the middle class and the poor to take hits..
    Paul Ryans plan is full of **** 25% straight up tax cut for Americans ONLY AT THE TOP RATE and the same for Corporations, this is AFTER the bush tax cuts are extended...then he and YOU want the middle class and the poor to pay more to fix the debt and give the rich more money....you people must think everyone is stupid.
    Ill say this again and stay tuned...if the teaparty wants to go far right they will eventually get spanked just like the far left did.
    Who are they to keep getting to keep more of their own money? Do you realize what you are saying? Do you really believe that this President is serious about cutting the deficit and addressing the debt? We are broke because we spend too much not because we get too little revenue. I cannot believe how brainwashed some people have become. There is no way that the rich can fund the liberal appetite but that doesn't seem to resonate with liberals. What you also don't seem to understand is that 47% of the income earners don't pay any Federal Income Taxes. why do you support that?

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    You used the phrase 'without details' quite a bit there Don. With just cause. His speech was, as always, short on details.
    And rhetoric.
    Catch me if you can.

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    You used the phrase 'without details' quite a bit there Don. With just cause. His speech was, as always, short on details.
    But it's not up to the President to provide details. Remember, it's Congress who proposes, writes, and and passes bills. All the President does, technically, is sign a bill into law or veto a bill. He can't even propose a bill - if he wants a law made he has to convince a Congressman or Senator to propose it for him.

    De facto, yes, the President has the ability to influence the writing of a bill. But in this budget bill, there's so many different factions already - Tea Party House Republicans, social conservative House Republicans, moderate House Republicans, conservative House Democrats, progressive House Democrats, Senate Democrats, and Senate Republicans - that the last thing we need is someone else demanding specifics.

    I don't think the President - even if he was a Republican President - deserves much blame for what's going on regarding this budget. Rather, the blame goes to our politicians in Congress for not being able to make practical compromises. Then again, that's not surprising when the American people tend to be uncomfortable with compromises nowadays and vote out politicians who do.

    So maybe it's more our own fault than anyone elses'.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The middle class were beaten up by the housing fiasco the most. Now you want to hurt them some more.
    Exactly what getting rid of Fannie and Freddie would do. Cause housing prices to sink further because there will be fewer buyers.

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Who are they to keep getting to keep more of their own money? Do you realize what you are saying? Do you really believe that this President is serious about cutting the deficit and addressing the debt? We are broke because we spend too much not because we get too little revenue. I cannot believe how brainwashed some people have become. There is no way that the rich can fund the liberal appetite but that doesn't seem to resonate with liberals. What you also don't seem to understand is that 47% of the income earners don't pay any Federal Income Taxes. why do you support that?
    I know exactly what Im saying and no where did I mention the obama..I strictly was talking about ryans plan to rape everyone in america and give the Richest Americans another tax break while were BROKE.
    This isnt complex its very simple, were indebt up to our necks and EVERYONE needs to share the pain until were OUT OF DEBT.
    Ryan wants the bush tax cuts permanent and give 25% tax cuts to only the TOP earning americans and corporations...nonesense, if were going to get out of debt everyone pays the middleclass is being asked to pay more FINE..but you dont turn around and tell the super rich americans you pay 25% less...when were OUT of debt and in the Black then give a 25% tax cut...ryans plan is a flamboozle on the middle class...READ IT.
    Ryans plan will assure many lifelong republican middle class will jump ship...they arent all stupid and see what this teaparty thing has turned into

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I strictly was talking about ryans plan to rape everyone in america and give the Richest Americans another tax break while were BROKE.
    This kind of partisan tripe doesn't help anything either.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Here is ryans proposal broken down maggie and you will see he wants to LOWER both the personal income tax rate and the corporate tax rate to 25% from 35% which is a full 25% reduction in the top earners income taxs.
    You had me at taking 10% less from my wallet.

    Was there more to the document then that? I couldn't tell, I nearly blacked out at the thought of governmenting taking 10% less.

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    This kind of partisan tripe doesn't help anything either.
    Im a republican for 42 yrs...admittedly that may change soon, so I was not being partisan...I was stating a truth as I see it...I did however over dramatize it.

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    lpast;1059408700]I know exactly what Im saying and no where did I mention the obama..I strictly was talking about ryans plan to rape everyone in america and give the Richest Americans another tax break while were BROKE.
    Since when is allowing people to keep more of what they earned giving them anything? In your world raping everyone in America is allowing people to keep more of what they earned?

    This isnt complex its very simple, were indebt up to our necks and EVERYONE needs to share the pain until were OUT OF DEBT.
    Right, then stop the damn spending and do what the Founders envisioned for our Federal Govt. We have 50 states that do most of what the Federal Govt does so why the duplication? You think 47% of income earners not paying any Federal Taxes is sharing the pain? How much exactly are you going to get out of those evil rich people?


    Ryan wants the bush tax cuts permanent and give 25% tax cuts to only the TOP earning americans and corporations...nonesense, if were going to get out of debt everyone pays the middleclass is being asked to pay more FINE..but you dont turn around and tell the super rich americans you pay 25% less...when were OUT of debt and in the Black then give a 25% tax cut...ryans plan is a flamboozle on the middle class...READ IT.
    See above, the govt. isn't giving the rich or anyone else anything when they let them keep more of what they earned. That is nonsense and scares the hell out of me if this is what you learned in school.


    Ryans plan will assure many lifelong republican middle class will jump ship...they arent all stupid and see what this teaparty thing has turned into
    Only the ignorant will jump ship and that is what Obama is counting on. Don't see a lot of intelligence coming from the Obama supporters

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