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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It was a gift to President Obama.
    no, it very dramatically exposed the leadership void that this nation has suffered as that massive meteor of entitlements careens catastrophically towards our immediate presence to puliverize us

    if the slasher's got anything in the way of real solutions then he will act

    until he does, americans see the slasher is specious

    hurry, harry!

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    CAUTION!
    and there ya go---the slasher's 2012 reelection campaign in a bumper sticker

    seeya at the polls, progressives

    bring your leaders
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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I must be horribly center-right then.
    Good place to be. As long as you accept the pragmatic value of effective safety nets.

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    no, it very dramatically exposed the leadership void that this nation has suffered as that massive meteor of entitlements careens catastrophically towards our immediate presence to puliverize us

    if the slasher's got anything in the way of real solutions then he will act

    until he does, americans see the slasher is specious

    hurry, harry!
    Have you forgotten that before Bush Jr. became president, we were well on our way to fiscal sanity?


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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    another bumper sticker---what's-his-name was worse

    leadership, anyone?

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    why did the slasher's 2012 budget, published just two months ago, call for increased borrowing to the terrible tune of twenty percent?

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    And the far-righties calling themselves Libertarians aren't helping.
    I'd love a description of a "far righty" Now it can't include any general right wing views. Or it wouldn't be "far right"

    Who are some people we all know who are far right? Who are some people who are just right?

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Exactly the debate liberals want as more and more people are being sold the "benefits" of the nanny state and the replacement of personal responsibility with govt. responsibility. That failed ideology is on display all over the world but the arrogant liberals believe that this group of liberals will do better than the last group of liberals. Hardly reality as liberals only create debt and dependence.
    No one is trying to sell the benefits of the nanny state, the liberals are only trying to defend the status quo, which takes a very active imagination to call a nanny state. As for such economies failing throughout the world, thanks for your broad brush, but keep in mind that 6 of the 10 best economies, in terms of GDP per capita, are so-called nanny states, while 9 of 10 have far richer safety nets than that of the US. You can say you don't like those systems, but you cannot say they do not work.

    Norway at top of prosperity index - CNN

    What has seemingly failed is the US system, which has failed to fairly distribute its riches to its population, but rather concentrates its wealth we a very, very few. A trend which is leading the US to a 2nd world country (name a 1st world economy without a middle class)

    As for debt, hard to pin that on the democrats given that debt to GDP has gone up with each Republican administration and down with the democrats. You, who pride yourself in operating from facts, stand stark naked on this post.
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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Exactly the debate liberals want as more and more people are being sold the "benefits" of the nanny state and the replacement of personal responsibility with govt. responsibility. That failed ideology is on display all over the world but the arrogant liberals believe that this group of liberals will do better than the last group of liberals. Hardly reality as liberals only create debt and dependence.[/QUOTE}

    No one is trying to sell the benefits of the nanny state, the liberals are only trying to defend the status quo, which takes a very active imagination to call a nanny state. As for such enterprises failing throughout the world, 6 of the 10 best economies, in terms of GDP per capita, are so-called nanny states, and 9 of 10 have far richer safety nets than that of the US. You can say you don't like those systems, but you cannot say they do not work.

    Norway at top of prosperity index - CNN

    What has seemingly failed is the US system, which has failed to fairly distribute its riches to its population, but rather concentrates its wealth we a very, very few. A trend which is leading the US to a 2nd world country (name a 1st world economy without a middle class)

    As for debt, hard to pin that on the democrats given that debt to GDP has gone up with each Republican administration and down with the democrats. You, who pride yourself in operating from facts, stand stark naked on this post.
    Our system wasn't created for the redistribution of wealth but instead the freedom to be the best you can be. Social programs should be at the state and local level, not the Federal level, not with 310 million people over 50 states. Comparing this country to Europe or any other Continent is a mistake and one that is comparing apples and oranges. We didn't become the land of opportunity by an over reaching Federal Govt. that other nations have with much less geography and population. Most of the debt created over the past few decades came from programs like the New Deal and Great Society where trillions have been spent and have generated most of the debt showing that you cannot social engineer at the Federal Level.

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