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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If the conversation comes down to granny paying more for medical costs... Or taxing the rich, the GOP is ****ed.
    Problem is many grannies can afford private insurance. I can only dream how many have transferred their money, home etc. to one of their kids. It has to be done so many years before you die, or the feds will come to get ya. I'm thinking between 3 to 8 yrs.

    All these old people ain't poor. This group squacks the loudest, but they are a part of our many problems. They should offer these people opportunities to get private insurance that will actually pay better than Medicare. Most Seniors have supplemental insurance to pay for what Medicare doesn't.

    It's coming down to everybody is going to give up, or we're gonna shrivel up fast.
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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    hasn't government employment decreased under obama?
    Probably the lower paying jobs. The people they really need still work.
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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That quote was in the Obama speech yesterday which apparently you didn't listen to. I further noted that you ran when the actual debt numbers were posted and how you actually left out intergovt. holdings which are future obligations thus debt
    please post the excerpt from Obama's speech which contains that quote

    and i didn't need to augment the data provided by the congressional budget office. it already documented that clinton turned an inherited annual deficit into an annual surplus - at least until the shrub showed up to bankrupt our nation
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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    please post the excerpt from Obama's speech which contains that quote

    and i didn't need to augment the data provided by the congressional budget office. it already documented that clinton turned an inherited annual deficit into an annual surplus - at least until the shrub showed up to bankrupt our nation
    No, Clinton didn't have an annual deficit as the Treasury data shows. He had a public debt surplus but that is only part of the debt. You don't seem to grasp that concept. Do you realize how foolish this makes you look when you won't even acknowledge factual data?

    Now why would you want me to prove it since you ignore data or any information that refutes your comments. Here is an example but Google the statement and see how many times it comes up

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...uction-policy/
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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    please post the excerpt from Obama's speech which contains that quote

    and i didn't need to augment the data provided by the congressional budget office. it already documented that clinton turned an inherited annual deficit into an annual surplus - at least until the shrub showed up to bankrupt our nation
    Just to show one more time that you didn't listen to the speech and simply buy what this empty suit tells you, read the speech and find the statement which is there a couple times. Notice I posted a leftwing blog so maybe you will believe the post there.

    The Maddow Blog - President Obama's deficit speech

    "The fourth step in our approach is to reduce spending in the tax code. In December, I agreed to extend the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans because it was the only way I could prevent a tax hike on middle-class Americans. But we cannot afford $1 trillion worth of tax cuts for every millionaire and billionaire in our society. And I refuse to renew them again.

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    The president also called for undoing the Bush tax cuts for upper-income taxpayers, and for canceling other tax cuts many of them receive such as the mortgage interest deduction — items that instead of labeling “tax increases” he called “spending reductions in the tax code.”
    Obama outlines deficit-reduction policy - Washington Times

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    today:

    President Barack Obama extended a fiscal olive branch to Republicans on Wednesday. Then he beat them up with it.

    Obama’s long-anticipated speech on the deficit at George Washington University was one of the oddest rhetorical hybrids of his presidency – a serious stab at reforming entitlements cloaked in a 2012 campaign speech that was one of the most overtly partisan broadsides he’s ever delivered from a podium with a presidential seal.

    But the combative tenor of Obama’s remarks, which included a swipe at his potential GOP challengers in 2012, may have scuttled the stated purpose of the entire enterprise - starting negotiations with Republicans on a workable bipartisan approach to attacking the deficit.

    And it didn’t build much good will ahead of other upcoming fights, especially the looming battle over raising the debt ceiling.

    Republicans pronounced any tax hike dead on arrival. And Obama – none too eager to walk the tax plank alone ahead of a re-election year — intentionally left the details blank.

    That left Democrats less than sanguine about the prospects for any deal anytime soon. Republicans, meanwhile, feel out of the loop, a point underscored when virtually no one on the GOP side got a heads-up that Obama planned to move ahead with Wednesday’s speech until senior adviser David Plouffe announced it on the Sunday political talk shows.
    Barack Obama leaves GOP in no mood to deal - Glenn Thrush and Manu Raju - POLITICO.com

    deal, anyone?

    leadership?

    barack the slasher hussein decided upon his bold course of action in the FIVE DAYS between ryan's revelation and plouffe's appearance on the sunday talks

    the STAKES are planetary in scope and the slasher TEMPORIZES

    in front of EVERYONE

    ask roger simon's journolisters

    such abnegation of responsibility---in times like these---is beyond EMBARRASSING

    it's TRAGIC

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, Clinton didn't have an annual deficit as the Treasury data shows. He had a public debt surplus but that is only part of the debt. You don't seem to grasp that concept. Do you realize how foolish this makes you look when you won't even acknowledge factual data?

    Now why would you want me to prove it since you ignore data or any information that refutes your comments. Here is an example but Google the statement and see how many times it comes up

    Obama outlines deficit-reduction policy - Washington Times
    thanks for the cite
    i agree, that was an awkward way of saying we are pissing our revenues away because of loopholes in the tax code
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Even the Gang of Six — the bipartisan group most invested in reaching a budget compromise — seemed perturbed with Obama, who they seemed to thing is big-footing their months of delicate negotiations.

    Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), one of the six, chafed at Obama’s suggestion that Biden begin regular meetings in May — with the hope of reaching a final agreement by the end of June.

    “If that’s what he does, fine, but we’re going to continue to work in our group of six,” Chambliss said icily.

    Asked if the Biden-led group would undermine the Gang of Six, Chambliss said Wednesday: “Anybody who has good ideas is welcome to give them to us.”

    Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) — a close Obama ally who is one of the group, put out a terse statement shortly after Obama’s speech, suggesting that the group’s talks would still move ahead.

    “Our bipartisan group of six senators continues to work for a comprehensive solution to our nation’s debt,” Durbin said.
    Barack Obama leaves GOP in no mood to deal - Glenn Thrush and Manu Raju - POLITICO.com

    barack the slasher hussein---it's all about him

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    thanks for the cite
    i agree, that was an awkward way of saying we are pissing our revenues away because of loopholes in the tax code
    Awkward? It is a downright lie to say that people keeping more of their money is an expense to the govt. We don't have a revenue problem we have an overreaching Federal Govt. doing what states are supposed to do and thus a spending problem.

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