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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by ADG View Post
    It isn't misleading if he truly believes it.
    if he truly believed anything he'd've passed a budget for 2011

    his senate would have moved on hr1, either up, down or sideways

    his 2012 bid wouldn't like the way it does, IN WRITING

    until harry reid puts up something IN NUMBERS, president barack the slash hussein is ALL POSER

    right there in front of everyone

    go ahead, tax the rich, fight that war

    americans want SOLUTIONS

    TALK aint it

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
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    He's making a political move. He wants to own the budget reduction debate.
    He's a lying POS as usual. same marxist bs about taxing the rich more and more spending. he is too dishonest to admit that until pandering to the many with promises of goodies that only the rich will pay for is ended, the deficit will continue to increase because the politicians buy votes by promising the majority goodies that the rich have to fund



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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Desperately trying to keep the tax cuts for their wealthy donors.
    there are three possible motivations for this nonsense

    1) you believe that from each according to their abilities is a valid premise and wins elections for your dem masters

    2) you labor under the delusion that the rich aren't paying far more than their share of the income and most others are paying far less than their share of the income

    3) you are envious of the rich



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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    The most cuts are not necessarily whats best for the country overall...cuts have to be thoughtful and care given to the consequences...anyone go in say ok I want to cut 6 trillion...lets cut this and this and this and this

    What ryan has against his plan is...he want to increase COSTS for all middle class americans and then he wants to give the rich a full additional 25% cut in income taxs...if all you conservatives think once that becomes clear to most americans thats going to float I think your in for a surprise.
    If your going to make a cut as drastic as 6trillion...you damn sure better make sure EVERYONE shares the pain and not the richest gain while everyone else takes it from behind.
    a question for the populist whiners here

    what is more likely to prevent the deficit from increasing

    taxing the rich more while allowing the vast majority of voters to suffer no more tax increases no matter how much the government spends

    or making everyone pay more taxes whenever the government spends more


    the reason why we have massive overspending is that politicians win elections by promising people stuff that those people dont have to pay for

    how does obama's plan reign in that problem?



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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    governor cuomo's SOLUTION

    The State of the State begins with an honest analysis of the crisis that we face. In government, as in life, you can never solve a problem if you refuse to acknowledge it. The economic recession has taken an especially hard hit on the State of New York. In 2009, we had a twenty-six year high in unemployment, roughly 800,000 New Yorkers are now unemployed, hundreds of thousands more are under-employed. We have the worst business tax climate in the nation, period. Our taxes are 66% higher than the national average. Upstate is truly an economic crisis. In real GDP, from 2001-2006, upstate New York grew about 1.7% per year while the average in the nation was 2.7%. The costs of pensions are exploding, 1.3 billion in 1998-1999, projected for 2013, 6.2 billion - a 476% increase and its only getting worse.

    The State of New York spends too much money, it is that blunt and it is that simple. Our spending has far exceeded the rate of inflation. From 1994-2009, inflation was about 2.7% per year; medicaid when up over 5% per year and education went up over 6% per year. We just can’t afford those rates of increase. State spending actually outpaced income growth. State spending increased just under 6%, personal income growth was only 3.8%.

    And most damaging, our expenses in this state far exceed revenue. We’ve been focusing on this year and the deficit this year, which is a very large deficit about $10 billion, and that is a problem and it is a major problem; what’s worse is it’s not just about this year. Next year, the problem goes to $14 billion. The year after, the deficit goes to $17 billion. This is not a one year problem my friends. This is a fundamental economic realignment for the State of New York. You look at the chart, you look at the arrows and this is an unsustainable rate of growth and it has been for a long time.

    Not only do we spend too much, but we get too little in return. We spend more money on education than any state in the nation and we are number 34 in terms of results. We spend more money on Medicaid than any other state in the nation and we are number 21 in results. We spend about $1.6 billion per year in economic development and we are number 50 in terms of results.

    And the large government we have is all too often responsive to the special interests, over the people of the State of New York. The proof is in the pudding. And New Yorkers are voting with their feet. Two million New Yorkers have left the State over the past decade. What does this say? It says we need radical reform, it says we need a new approach, we need a new perspective and we need it now. This is a fundamental realignment for the state. We are going to redesign our approach because the old way wasn’t working anyway, let's be honest.

    We are going to start by transforming New York’s economy. Because what made New York the Empire State was a not a large government complex, it was a vibrant private sector that was creating great jobs in the State of New York. That’s what made us the Empire State once and that’s what’s going to make us the Empire State again. And we have to relearn the lesson our founders knew and we have to put up a sign that says New York is open for business. We get it. And this is going to be a business friendly State.

    Next, we are going to have to confront the tax situation in our State. The property taxes in New York are killing New Yorkers. Thirteen of the sixteen highest tax counties are in New York when assessed by home value. In absolute dollars, Westchester County has the highest property taxes in the United States of America. Nassau County has the second highest property taxes in the United State of America. It has to end, it has to end this year. We have to hold the line on taxes for now and reduce taxes in the future. New York has no future as the tax capital of the nation. Our young people will not stay. Our business will not come. This has to change.

    Put it simply the people of this state simply cannot afford to pay any more taxes, period.

    We need to transform our budget. We have to start with an emergency financial plan to stabilize our finances we need to hold the line and we need to institute a wage freeze in the State of New York. We need to hold the line on taxes, we need a state spending cap and we need to close this $10 billion gap without any borrowing.
    GOVERNOR ANDREW M. CUOMO STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo

    the gub would suggest the slasher doesn't "get it"

    leadership, anyone?

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Then perhaps you'd better lobby your Republican Congressmen and Senators to raise more taxes on the middle class. I'd really like to know how they'd respond to that.
    sadly that would lose elections but it is the only thing that in the long run will stop the cancer killing america

    that cancer being politicians spending to buy votes of people who don't have to pay for the spending



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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    and in new york it aint just TALK

    Cuomo budget: $10 billion deficit cut, no new taxes, layoffs likely

    ONE TRILLION PER YEAR IN INTEREST PAYMENTS ALONE by 2017 thereabouts

    hurry, slash!
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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    I have no use for this "So called president" who is STILL nothing but a "Community Organizer'.

    What has the GOP done to reduce the debt? Nada, nichts, דבר, 沒有,何


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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    the slasher mutters empty vessels of medicare reform

    and WEINER WANTS A WAIVER

    Anthony Weiner: Waiver might work for New York - Kate Nocera - POLITICO.com

    credibility, anyone?

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    Re: Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What has the GOP done to reduce the debt?
    ryan put it IN WRITING

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