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UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

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UNITED NATIONS — Bolivia will this month table a draft United Nations treaty giving "Mother Earth" the same rights as humans — having just passed a domestic law that does the same for bugs, trees and all other natural things in the South American country.

The bid aims to have the UN recognize the Earth as a living entity that humans have sought to "dominate and exploit" — to the point that the "well-being and existence of many beings" is now threatened.

The wording may yet evolve, but the general structure is meant to mirror Bolivia's Law of the Rights of Mother Earth, which Bolivian President Evo Morales enacted in January.

That document speaks of the country's natural resources as "blessings," and grants the Earth a series of specific rights that include rights to life, water and clean air; the right to repair livelihoods affected by human activities; and the right to be free from pollution.

It also establishes a Ministry of Mother Earth, and provides the planet with an ombudsman whose job is to hear nature's complaints as voiced by activist and other groups, including the state.

"If you want to have balance, and you think that the only (entities) who have rights are humans or companies, then how can you reach balance?" Pablo Salon, Bolivia's ambassador to the UN, told Postmedia News. "But if you recognize that nature too has rights, and (if you provide) legal forms to protect and preserve those rights, then you can achieve balance."

The application of the law appears destined to pose new challenges for companies operating in the country, which is rich in natural resources, including natural gas and lithium, but remains one of the poorest in Latin America.

But while Salon said his country just seeks to achieve "harmony" with nature, he signalled that mining and other companies may come under greater scrutiny.

UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

This is lunacy! When our civilization is studied in the future, with this I am sure that we will be seen as suicidal when taking this garbage into account.

j-mac
 
While I question whether the actual document is as extreme as your source makes it out to be, how would protecting the environment be suicidal?
 
Bug = Bolivian

LOL

Yeah, that sounds about right.
 
While I question whether the actual document is as extreme as your source makes it out to be, how would protecting the environment be suicidal?
That's easy enough. If a law *were* that extreme (bugs have the same rights as humans) you couldn't so much as drive your car a few hundred yards without committing mass murder.

These sorts of extremist movements often seem to have more to do with a desire to end capitalism than a desire to protect the environment.
 
That's easy enough. If a law *were* that extreme (bugs have the same rights as humans) you couldn't so much as drive your car a few hundred yards without committing mass murder.

These sorts of extremist movements often seem to have more to do with a desire to end capitalism than a desire to protect the environment.

Which means it simply couldn't exist as law and makes doubtful any such thing would pass or be meaningful in any way.
 
Crazy natives and their trying to give the earth rights! Anyways, it sounds psuedo-spiritual and will likely mean nothing. Or it's as bad as your wildest machinations of the 'radical left' can muster. That'd be even funnier.
 
I think I tend to agree with them. The earth is a biosphere. It is quite alive and we are just one part of it. We forget that and there will be consequences.
 
ROTFLMAO .. :)

They never cease to amaze me!


Tim-
 
Which means it simply couldn't exist as law and makes doubtful any such thing would pass or be meaningful in any way.
No, it doesn't mean that at all -- where you see ambiguity, a judge sees opportunity. If their system is anything like ours, the law will mean what the judge says it means.
 
It's a violation of the freedom of religion, and the US should veto anything like this.
 
So we have a second hand account of bill that hasn't passed issued by an organization with no ability to enforce anything. Yeah, I'm real worried now.
 
This is lunacy! When our civilization is studied in the future, with this I am sure that we will be seen as suicidal when taking this garbage into account.

j-mac

We had better damn well hope that this doesn't happen. If it does, Mother Earth might file attempted murder charges on all of us, and we would be in deep doo-doo.
 
That's easy enough. If a law *were* that extreme (bugs have the same rights as humans) you couldn't so much as drive your car a few hundred yards without committing mass murder.

These sorts of extremist movements often seem to have more to do with a desire to end capitalism than a desire to protect the environment.

I guess I am guilty of a massacre anytime I ride at dawn or dusk as I surely kill dozens of mosquitoes on such a ride...

This is lunacy, but it won't become international law as decisions of the UNGA generally do NOT become such unless it is actually put into practice by member states...
 
I guess I am guilty of a massacre anytime I ride at dawn or dusk as I surely kill dozens of mosquitoes on such a ride...

This is lunacy, but it won't become international law as decisions of the UNGA generally do NOT become such unless it is actually put into practice by member states...

I work in the basement of a 95 yearold textile mill. I kill about a mouse a month because of the fact its a nasty old building and you can't keep them out. I am eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil :lol:
 
I work in the basement of a 95 yearold textile mill. I kill about a mouse a month because of the fact its a nasty old building and you can't keep them out. I am eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil :lol:

Reminds me of the time I once played soccer with a rat. We were visiting friends in a rural area not far from Shanghai. There was a rate in the basement where about 15 of us were eating... they tried to kill it, but it escaped from where they had it encircled and it ran right at me. Well, being a former soccer player, you see anything resembling a ball approaching you and what do you do? Kick it of course... I kicked it right back into the corner of the room where they promptly killed it... funny as h$%l....
 
Reminds me of the time I once played soccer with a rat. We were visiting friends in a rural area not far from Shanghai. There was a rate in the basement where about 15 of us were eating... they tried to kill it, but it escaped from where they had it encircled and it ran right at me. Well, being a former soccer player, you see anything resembling a ball approaching you and what do you do? Kick it of course... I kicked it right back into the corner of the room where they promptly killed it... funny as h$%l....

Heh. I just use glue traps. My earth murder is far less dramatic.
 
I totally agree with the resolution. How can human beings be so naive as not to recognize that life forms do not have to be similar to ourselves. The earth has trees and greenery as similar to hairs on humans. Fluids that could equate to body fluids. An atmosphere/biosphere that harbors parasites until they begin to damage the host. Usually such thoughts are anaethema (sp) to humans because of their swollen egos. They can't acknowledge the possibility that they might not be the pre eminent beings of the universe. Possibly even insignificant. Their medias and politics and education are constantly massaging their egos and encouraging their fantasies. There is a real world here.
 
Those Bolivians are way ahead of their time. It's too soon for something like this to be the norm everywhere, but make no mistake, this is exactly where we're headed. Eventually the whole world will make protecting nature a priority. :shrug:
 
Those Bolivians are way ahead of their time. It's too soon for something like this to be the norm everywhere, but make no mistake, this is exactly where we're headed. Eventually the whole world will make protecting nature a priority. :shrug:

If we do, just remember who coined the term earth murder (boy is that fun to say)
 
I totally agree with the resolution. How can human beings be so naive as not to recognize that life forms do not have to be similar to ourselves. The earth has trees and greenery as similar to hairs on humans. Fluids that could equate to body fluids. An atmosphere/biosphere that harbors parasites until they begin to damage the host. Usually such thoughts are anaethema (sp) to humans because of their swollen egos. They can't acknowledge the possibility that they might not be the pre eminent beings of the universe. Possibly even insignificant. Their medias and politics and education are constantly massaging their egos and encouraging their fantasies. There is a real world here.


Taken at face value your rant here, how is possible to come to any other conclusion then that the human race must be exterminated?


j-mac
 
Those Bolivians are way ahead of their time. It's too soon for something like this to be the norm everywhere, but make no mistake, this is exactly where we're headed. Eventually the whole world will make protecting nature a priority. :shrug:


Looking into the future you see then, what, and how do you see the human race existing on this planet given that our very existence harms another being, tree, blade of grass, or cockroach?


j-mac
 
No, it doesn't mean that at all -- where you see ambiguity, a judge sees opportunity. If their system is anything like ours, the law will mean what the judge says it means.

Wrong. Even if real, it means nothing.
 
Looking into the future you see then, what, and how do you see the human race existing on this planet given that our very existence harms another being, tree, blade of grass, or cockroach?


j-mac

Yes, we'll let ourselves die to save the grass. How stupid does someone have to be to believe that will happen? :coffeepap
 
:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo

That document speaks of the country's natural resources as "blessings," and grants the Earth a series of specific rights that include rights to life

Please tell me they give grain or cattle a right to life, then any of the dickheads that take this seriously can starve to death.
 
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