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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

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    This makes me wonder if you know what a corporation is.

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    Hot damn y'all, ah swar. Glad you asked. It is a form of business to create a "fictitious entity" to operate business and eliminate the owner/owners from "liability." If things go wrong, just push the bankrupt button, go home. The liabilities one formed the business to avoid will become those little round brown balls that roll downhill to the citizenry impacted. If you form an LLC, your liability is limited to your original investment. I'd like to buy the nuke plant in your neighborhood with my shell Corporation, scrap the metals, then file bankruptcy and have your state pay me my salary as a CEO to manage the bandruptcy process while it is de-commissioning.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Corporatism does not live and breathe, ergo planetary considerations are not part of the Corporate program.
    Although the ability to achieve and sustain economic profits are a basic premise for any company that wants to survive, it is far too simplistic to assert that companies lack concern for the environment. While "sustainable development" might not be a catch phrase that dominates strategic management considerations, notions that are compatible i.e., resource scarcity, increased productivity (in part, achievable by reducing waste), etc., are common.

    For example, if one goes to Coca Cola's 2010 10-K report, one finds that the company is very concerned about water-related issues:

    Water is the main ingredient in substantially all of our products. It is also a limited resource in many parts of the world, facing unprecedented challenges from overexploitation, increasing pollution, poor management and climate change. As demand for water continues to increase around the world, and as water becomes scarcer and the quality of available water deteriorates, our system may incur increasing production costs or face capacity constraints which could adversely affect our profitability or net operating revenues in the long run.

    In other words, the company sees a very real relationship between an environmental issue and its business model. It also understands that failure to address major related environmental problems could adversely impact its long-run sales and net profits.

    Those are not hollow words, even as the company had been slow to recognize this issue in the past. The company was criticized and responded to the social concerns of its customers and other stakeholders. Now, for example, with respect to Kenya, the Kenya Broadcasting Corporation [url-http://www.kbc.co.ke/news.asp?nid=69747]reported[/url]:

    In addition to its commitment to strengthening the economy, Coca-Cola has also made a long-term commitment to sustainability; working both internally as well as with communities to create greater shared value.

    Externally, Coca-Cola has allocated a total of USD 30 million to the RAIN project, which aims to provide over 2 million people in Africa with access to clean water by 2015.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    Where has man, at any point in history, lived in harmony with nature?
    I have always lived in harmony with nature, and carry bar-b-cue sauce with me at all times. Nature is for eating, which is harmony to my taste buds.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Although the ability to achieve and sustain economic profits are a basic premise for any company that wants to survive, it is far too simplistic to assert that companies lack concern for the environment. While "sustainable development" might not be a catch phrase that dominates strategic management considerations, notions that are compatible i.e., resource scarcity, increased productivity (in part, achievable by reducing waste), etc., are common.

    For example, if one goes to Coca Cola's 2010 10-K report, one finds that the company is very concerned about water-related issues:

    Water is the main ingredient in substantially all of our products. It is also a limited resource in many parts of the world, facing unprecedented challenges from overexploitation, increasing pollution, poor management and climate change. As demand for water continues to increase around the world, and as water becomes scarcer and the quality of available water deteriorates, our system may incur increasing production costs or face capacity constraints which could adversely affect our profitability or net operating revenues in the long run.

    In other words, the company sees a very real relationship between an environmental issue and its business model. It also understands that failure to address major related environmental problems could adversely impact its long-run sales and net profits.

    Those are not hollow words, even as the company had been slow to recognize this issue in the past. The company was criticized and responded to the social concerns of its customers and other stakeholders. Now, for example, with respect to Kenya, the Kenya Broadcasting Corporation [url-http://www.kbc.co.ke/news.asp?nid=69747]reported[/url]:

    In addition to its commitment to strengthening the economy, Coca-Cola has also made a long-term commitment to sustainability; working both internally as well as with communities to create greater shared value.

    Externally, Coca-Cola has allocated a total of USD 30 million to the RAIN project, which aims to provide over 2 million people in Africa with access to clean water by 2015.
    It would obviously be in a Corporations interest to protect the fiscal integrity of its most basic resource. This is directly to the bottom line of the cost accounting, not a humanitarian intent. Protecting the bottom line. Enough sun hits the State of Texas to power the world, but we do not see people standing in line to harness this because it does not favor the Corporate bottom line, not because it cannot be done.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why do conservatives always extrapolate things to absurd extremes?
    Wait, what?

    You're supporting legislation to give "Mother Nature" the same rights as humans, and want to accuse conservatives of "extrapolating things to absurd extremes"?

    Priceless.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Wait, what?

    You're supporting legislation to give "Mother Nature" the same rights as humans, and want to accuse conservatives of "extrapolating things to absurd extremes"?

    Priceless.
    Thank you for proving my point exactly.

    This legislation does not do what you guys seem to think it does. You wont go to prison for eating a cow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Thank you for proving my point exactly.

    This legislation does not do what you guys seem to think it does. You wont go to prison for eating a cow.
    Thanks for proving my point exactly.

    Where did I say anything about cows or prison?

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Thanks for proving my point exactly.

    Where did I say anything about cows or prison?
    Didn't say the claim was from you specifically. Read the thread, you'll see.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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