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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why do conservatives always extrapolate things to absurd extremes?
    Because, let's say we have some benevolent person who we give that kind of power to be the arbiter on behalf of animals that could not represent themselves, even if we could ensure that only someone is acting in truly benevolent fashion. That's fine, but having that engaged is like having a loaded weapon, one that is based on the promise of acting in the best interest of everything.

    Now, let's say it's a 'democracy'... well, any insect outnumbers humans 1000's to 1, so what humans want is irrelevant, and if this judge decides that the bees want cities demolished to be replaced with plantlife, well, the people that don't well, they cast their vote and 'oh the bees win again'.

    It's limitless legal power and it makes laws based on arbitrary decisions, it's a system that is ripe for abuse and should not be installed in any way. It's too bad that Obama now puts precedence in the UN / Nato / Muslim brotherhood then he does in the US congress, so maybe it's a sign of the times.

    But, have you actually read through the UN constitution? Agenda 21?

    Somehow "we should put limits on the damage we do to the environment" translates to "ILL GO TO JAIL FOR KILLING MOSQUITOS!!!"

    Oi.
    Ya, because you start with what sounds like "reasonable limits", like banning agent orange because of whatever plant life it destroys... then as the power grows, then whoever gains this power will use it for their own ends, and power almost always leads to an abuse of power... there's no reason we should sign up to facilitate this process at an international level.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Bug = Bolivian

    LOL

    Yeah, that sounds about right.
    Wow -- talk about racism.

    In you mind, people from a small South American country are equivalent to insects?

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Because, let's say we have some benevolent person who we give that kind of power to be the arbiter on behalf of animals that could not represent themselves, even if we could ensure that only someone is acting in truly benevolent fashion. That's fine, but having that engaged is like having a loaded weapon, one that is based on the promise of acting in the best interest of everything.

    Now, let's say it's a 'democracy'... well, any insect outnumbers humans 1000's to 1, so what humans want is irrelevant, and if this judge decides that the bees want cities demolished to be replaced with plantlife, well, the people that don't well, they cast their vote and 'oh the bees win again'.

    It's limitless legal power and it makes laws based on arbitrary decisions, it's a system that is ripe for abuse and should not be installed in any way. It's too bad that Obama now puts precedence in the UN / Nato / Muslim brotherhood then he does in the US congress, so maybe it's a sign of the times.

    But, have you actually read through the UN constitution? Agenda 21?



    Ya, because you start with what sounds like "reasonable limits", like banning agent orange because of whatever plant life it destroys... then as the power grows, then whoever gains this power will use it for their own ends, and power almost always leads to an abuse of power... there's no reason we should sign up to facilitate this process at an international level.
    Wow. You really do live in some alternate universe. One with a lot of tin foil in it. The proposed text does nothing that you describe.
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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Wow. You really do live in some alternate universe. One with a lot of tin foil in it. The proposed text does nothing that you describe.
    Um... No, there's no conspiracy theory. I did however ask you, good attempt at a dodge though, have you ever actually read through UN's agenda 21? Or the UN's charter?

    This just falls into line with what the UN has publicly stated as their objectives...

    But I keep forgetting how man has evolved back in the 80's to be beyond the capacity where groups might have collective objectives they seek to accomplish... my bad, I forgot, people don't do that anymore.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The assault would be on Corporatism not Capitalism. Corporatism does not live and breathe, ergo planetary considerations are not part of the Corporate program. That would be the difference between real people and fictitious entities. It is also the power of Corporations should be severely limited. Capitalism is wonderful and is a person to person deal. It involves real people, more so than numbers.

    This makes me wonder if you know what a corporation is.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Wow -- talk about racism.

    In you mind, people from a small South American country are equivalent to insects?
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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    It also establishes a Ministry of Mother Earth, and provides the planet with an ombudsman whose job is to hear nature's complaints as voiced by activist and other groups, including the state.
    Adding on to that in a statement today the nominee for UN Minister of Mother Earth was quoted as saying:

    "You gotta protect the trees man. I talked to this cedar tree that was all like 'Dude why you be making me into paper man? That ain't cool,' and I was all like 'Woah that tree just talked!' You gotta listen to nature dig?"

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    LOL!!!!

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    BTW, the UNGA has declared April 22 as International Mother Earth Day

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This makes me wonder if you know what a corporation is.
    Nothing in the quoted post indicated otherwise.

    Why don't you give your definition...

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