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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    That to me speaks of farcical self imposed, and totally unnecessary limitations that will result in the possible deaths of sectors of human population.
    Yes, we don't know why.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Yes, we don't know why.

    Huh? I don't follow....

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    So now corporations and Earth are people? Man, everything gets to be a person these days.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    It is a control mechanism, another means to gain more control over mankind. That is all environmentalism is, a world religion seeking to convert human kind into slaves.


    But scientists, particularly evolutionary psychologists, have identified another function of religion in addition to its function of explaining the world. Religion often supplements or replaces the tribalism that is an innate part of our evolved nature.

    Original religions were tribal rather than universal. Each tribe had its own god or gods, and the success of the tribe was evidence that their god was stronger than others.

    But modern religions have largely replaced tribal gods with universal gods and allowed unrelated individuals from outside the tribe to join. Identification with a religion has replaced identification with a tribe. While many decry religious wars, modern religion has probably net reduced human conflict because there are fewer tribal wars. (Anthropologists have shown that tribal wars are even more lethal per capita than modern wars.)

    It is this identity-creating function that environmentalism provides. As the world becomes less religious, people can define themselves as being Green rather than being Christian or Jewish.

    Consider some of the ways in which environmental behaviors echo religious behaviors and thus provide meaningful rituals for Greens:

    • There is a holy day—Earth Day.

    • There are food taboos. Instead of eating fish on Friday, or avoiding pork, Greens now eat organic foods and many are moving towards eating only locally grown foods.

    • There is no prayer, but there are self-sacrificing rituals that are not particularly useful, such as recycling. Recycling paper to save trees, for example, makes no sense since the effect will be to reduce the number of trees planted in the long run.

    • Belief systems are embraced with no logical basis. For example, environmentalists almost universally believe in the dangers of global warming but also reject the best solution to the problem, which is nuclear power. These two beliefs co-exist based on faith, not reason.

    • There are no temples, but there are sacred structures. As I walk around the Emory campus, I am continually confronted with recycling bins, and instead of one trash can I am faced with several for different sorts of trash. Universities are centers of the environmental religion, and such structures are increasingly common. While people have worshipped many things, we may be the first to build shrines to garbage.

    • Environmentalism is a proselytizing religion. Skeptics are not merely people unconvinced by the evidence: They are treated as evil sinners. I probably would not write this article if I did not have tenure.
    Paul H. Rubin: Environmentalism as Religion - WSJ.com

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So now corporations and Earth are people? Man, everything gets to be a person these days.
    Everything but an inconvenient baby that is.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I totally agree with the resolution. How can human beings be so naive as not to recognize that life forms do not have to be similar to ourselves. The earth has trees and greenery as similar to hairs on humans. Fluids that could equate to body fluids. An atmosphere/biosphere that harbors parasites until they begin to damage the host.
    Did you really just criticize people for a naive inability to "recognize that life forms do not have to be similar to ourselves" -- and then go on to talk about how "similar" and "equatable" the earth is to humans?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Usually such thoughts are anaethema (sp) to humans because of their swollen egos. They can't acknowledge the possibility that they might not be the pre eminent beings of the universe. Possibly even insignificant. Their medias and politics and education are constantly massaging their egos and encouraging their fantasies. There is a real world here.
    Yes, but the real world recognizes none of this crap about "a right to exist" or a "right to continue natural cycles." In the real world, you kill, eat, poop, procreate and die in the gnashing teeth of another predator.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    Considering the earth as a life form is unpopular because it instantly removes our status as the most advanced species. It's considerate that the Bolivians are trying to be nice to the planet. Considerate, but not necessary. The earth, with patience that we cannot fathom, takes back everything that we take from it in time. Right now, lake Mead is patiently wearing out the Hoover Dam.

    The earth is very capable of taking care of herself. We know for a fact that the human population has been reduced to a few thousand a couple of different times, way back in history. We also know that our demise could come from the super-magma that is located under Yellowstone Park. There are similar catastrophic events waiting patiently in many parts of the world. Fault lines come to mind.

    Armageddon won't be unleashed by God, but it could very easily be unleashed by Mother Earth and you would think it was from God.
    I disagree.

    The Earth is but a speck of insignificant dust that is already well past the prime of her transient existence. Her biosphere is in its twilight and will soon be taken from her. The oceans will then evaporate and Mother Earth will endure the latter part of her existence a small, dessicated rock before she's finally swallowed by the Sun.

    If Mother Earth is capable of worrying about anything, it sure as hell ain't us.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    There is no veto power in the UNGA... majority vote only...
    The US will reject it.
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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The US will reject it.
    Let's hope so. Lately we seem all too happy to ceed our soverignity to this UN that clearly would like to see us and Israel cease to exist.


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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The US will reject it.
    Reject what? There's nothing really there.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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