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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I totally agree with the resolution. How can human beings be so naive as not to recognize that life forms do not have to be similar to ourselves. The earth has trees and greenery as similar to hairs on humans. Fluids that could equate to body fluids. An atmosphere/biosphere that harbors parasites until they begin to damage the host. Usually such thoughts are anaethema (sp) to humans because of their swollen egos. They can't acknowledge the possibility that they might not be the pre eminent beings of the universe. Possibly even insignificant. Their medias and politics and education are constantly massaging their egos and encouraging their fantasies. There is a real world here.

    Taken at face value your rant here, how is possible to come to any other conclusion then that the human race must be exterminated?


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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Those Bolivians are way ahead of their time. It's too soon for something like this to be the norm everywhere, but make no mistake, this is exactly where we're headed. Eventually the whole world will make protecting nature a priority.

    Looking into the future you see then, what, and how do you see the human race existing on this planet given that our very existence harms another being, tree, blade of grass, or cockroach?


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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    No, it doesn't mean that at all -- where you see ambiguity, a judge sees opportunity. If their system is anything like ours, the law will mean what the judge says it means.
    Wrong. Even if real, it means nothing.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Looking into the future you see then, what, and how do you see the human race existing on this planet given that our very existence harms another being, tree, blade of grass, or cockroach?


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    Yes, we'll let ourselves die to save the grass. How stupid does someone have to be to believe that will happen?

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans



    That document speaks of the country's natural resources as "blessings," and grants the Earth a series of specific rights that include rights to life
    Please tell me they give grain or cattle a right to life, then any of the dickheads that take this seriously can starve to death.
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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Taken at face value your rant here, how is possible to come to any other conclusion then that the human race must be exterminated?


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    I see! You are asking if it is possible to live in balance/harmony with our environment. How novel. Who could ever have imagined such a possibility? Although extermination of the race would probably be best for the planet's sake, it is not something I have suggested nor approved. Nice of you to read my mind and print my thoughts for readers who don't have the mastery of mind-reading. You might get your antenna checked or adjusted.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Looking into the future you see then, what, and how do you see the human race existing on this planet given that our very existence harms another being, tree, blade of grass, or cockroach?


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    I don't think you understand the purpose of what they're doing. It's not about trying not to harm anything at all. That would be contrary to nature itself and would be quite idiotic. All living things must harm if they want to eat. The point is to not upset the balance that is supposed to be constant in nature inorder for all species to have a chance of survival. Just because we have the power as the dominant species to completely destroy the natural habitat of other living things doesn't mean that we should. In many cases we should know better, if only for own sake.
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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I see! You are asking if it is possible to live in balance/harmony with our environment. How novel. Who could ever have imagined such a possibility? Although extermination of the race would probably be best for the planet's sake, it is not something I have suggested nor approved. Nice of you to read my mind and print my thoughts for readers who don't have the mastery of mind-reading. You might get your antenna checked or adjusted.
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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    Where has man, at any point in history, lived in harmony with nature?
    When there wasn't enough of a population to cause long term harm. Our biggest problem in terms of co-existing with nature is population based more than technologically based. The best thing we could do is promote wide spread use of birth control and enough of a standard of living that people don't feel the need to have lots of children because some will die. Once that happens, our populations seem to naturally begin to decline. Either that or we kill a bunch of people and I don't like that solution.

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    Re: UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

    For anyone interested, this is the Bolivian law on which the UN document will be based. It's in Spanish, obviously, but I'm sure the smart ones among you will figure out how to Google-translate it. It basically says what I thought it would say. It's about finding the right balance to preserve the well being of all things on Earth, including humans.

    Ley de Derechos de la Madre Tierra - Estado Plurinacional de Bolivia
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