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Chicago school bans some lunches brought from home

Wow dear lord banning lunch from home...liberals gone wild

Second person I get to ask:

Do I now get to choose one person as representative of conservatives? Because this is just one principal making this decision.

I get to pick anyone I want. You get to pick this individual. Deal?
 
Do you think the rule would stand if challenged?

The sad - and most infuriating thing - is that it shouldn't even be there to need challenging in the first place.

WTH is happening in this country?!? What boggles my mind the most is that we're actually debating whether or not it's okay. We are in worse shape (no pun intended) than we ever imagined as far as an over-reaching govt.
 
So when the little heavy set boy or girl walks into the lunch room and pours out 6 candy bars and 2 sugary soft drinks from their lunchbox, you think that is ok.

Should we allow these little kids to have cigarettes after their lunch too. After all why should the "government" be allowed to take away their smoking rights.

I sure do, because the last time I checked, we still live in America, not the Soviet Union, or China.

"Liberty", isn't selective, based on the whims of the government's agenda.
 
Second person I get to ask:

Do I now get to choose one person as representative of conservatives? Because this is just one principal making this decision.

I get to pick anyone I want. You get to pick this individual. Deal?

Everytime one of these kind of, "we know what's better for you than you do", nanny state rules hit's the news, there's some Liberal do-gooder that's pushing it.
 
I sure do, because the last time I checked, we still live in America, not the Soviet Union, or China.

"Liberty", isn't selective, based on the whims of the government's agenda.

The Soviet Union Nor China would ban bring-to-school lunches.
 
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The sad - and most infuriating thing - is that it shouldn't even be there to need challenging in the first place.
This is true. People do things that they shouldn't all the time.

We are in worse shape (no pun intended) than we ever imagined as far as an over-reaching govt.
I don't think it's reason to call our entire moderns society into question just because one lady made up some poorly thought-out rule.
 
School's food is the only option for some kids - chicagotribune.com

Really, school lunches? they know better than you or I what we should feed our children? I think this is far out of bounds.

It would not surprise me that this is in someone's contract....guaranteeing X-number of meals.

Any school that bans homemade lunches also puts more money in the pockets of the district’s food provider, Chartwells-Thompson. The federal government pays the district for each free or reduced-price lunch taken, and the caterer receives a set fee from the district per lunch.

As usual, folks, follow the money. It usually provides the answers.
 
As far as I can see, the issue is about health and nothing more, But some would rather make it out to be some sort of constitutional rights issue.

Why don't you start sending your own learning materials with your kids if you don't trust the school to make the right decisions.

Isn't it sad that we would allow the government to feed their minds, yet people want to riot in the streets if the government has a say in what goes into their stomachs.
 
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As far as I can see, the issue is about health and nothing more, But some would rather make it out to be some sort of constitutional rights issue.

Why don't you start sending your own learning materials with your kids if you don't trust the school to make the right decisions.

Isn't it funny that we would allow the government to feed their minds, yet people want to riot in the streets if the government has a say in what goes into their stomachs.

That's the problem with this "they know better than us" argument. The entire education system and the entire representative democratic system is based on "they know better than us". And the fact is, by demanding healthier lunches, the school does, in fact, know better than many parents.
 
This is true. People do things that they shouldn't all the time.

I don't think it's reason to call our entire moderns society into question just because one lady made up some poorly thought-out rule.

It's not just one lady making a poorly thought out rule. Even as we speak legislators in NY are debating whether to outlaw Happy Meals. San Fran has already outlawed them or is debating doing so. Boston's mayor has just banned sodas, sports drinks or any sweetened teas from any city properties. The list goes on and on and on. It's the camel's nose in the tent.
 
You wanted the government to call all the shots. Well, you got it.

In hyper-partisan world one can not agree with someone if they are of a different political persuasion, so they must find something to argue about.
 
As far as I can see, the issue is about health and nothing more, But some would rather make it out to be some sort of constitutional rights issue.

Why don't you start sending your own learning materials with your kids if you don't trust the school to make the right decisions.

Isn't it sad that we would allow the government to feed their minds, yet people want to riot in the streets if the government has a say in what goes into their stomachs.

I always find it fascinating that the same libs who come up with these screwy and intrusive things are the first to declare the sanctity of personal choice and one's freedom over their own body when it comes to abortion but somehow that rule doesn't apply to other situations that involve personal choice and/or personal autonomy.

As far as the govt. feeding their minds that's a whole different ball of wax and one that also needs exploring.
 
So when the little heavy set boy or girl walks into the lunch room and pours out 6 candy bars and 2 sugary soft drinks from their lunchbox, you think that is ok.

It's none of my freaking business. In addition to that - I notice you single out the heavy set kids. That's a no-no and the beginning of a slippery slope.
 
I always find it fascinating that the same libs who come up with these screwy and intrusive things are the first to declare the sanctity of personal choice and one's freedom over their own body when it comes to abortion but somehow that rule doesn't apply to other situations that involve personal choice and/or personal autonomy.

I always find it fascinating that the same conservatives who come up with screwy and intrusive things like banning gay marriage and abortion are the first to declare the sanctity of personal choice when it comes to measures that seek to prevent students from developing unhealthy eating habits.

Are we done yet?
 
It would not surprise me that this is in someone's contract....guaranteeing X-number of meals.



As usual, folks, follow the money. It usually provides the answers.

Bingo! You have hit the nail square on the head.

I will always remember how the govt. food pyramid used to dictate 8 glasses of milk a day. Turns out it was a direct hand up to the dairy industry.
 
Bingo! You have hit the nail square on the head.

I will always remember how the govt. food pyramid used to dictate 8 glasses of milk a day. Turns out it was a direct hand up to the dairy industry.

Well, for one, it didn't "dictate" anything.

Next, it never recommended 8 glasses of milk a day.
 
Bingo! You have hit the nail square on the head.
I will always remember how the govt. food pyramid used to dictate 8 glasses of milk a day. Turns out it was a direct hand up to the dairy industry.
Must've been really old.
1992foodpyramid.jpg
 
Well, for one, it didn't "dictate" anything.

Next, it never recommended 8 glasses of milk a day.

I stand corrected - they suggested 4 glasses.

The USDA Food Pyramid History

The story of how a healthy food pyramid gets mutated by wealthy food corporations!

The USDA food pyramid history is a classic example of how political lobbying by food organisations can influence government and scientific recommendations. This resulted in major changes to what should have been a healthy food pyramid.

(snip)

The USDA Food Pyramid History Part 1: Creation of the USDA

(snip)

It encouraged the American population to eat more food. By doing so it ensured a healthier population. It also advanced the financial interests of farmers and was therefore beneficial for the economy because during that time about two-thirds of the population were involved in farming of some kind.

This approach worked well for about the next hundred years but then food became over-supplied. People now had choice. They were able to be more selective about the types of food they ate. As a result, the food producers were forced to compete against each other in order to ensure continued sales of their food products and to maximise their profits.

(snip)

The USDA Food Pyramid History Part 2:
Food Group Lobbying Begins

The dairy industry was the first food group to start structured marketing for their products. They began dairy associations and dairy councils. These associations were funded by wealthy companies in the dairy industry. The primary aim of the associations and councils was to promote the interests of the dairy industry.

They conducted mass media advertising to influence the general public’s views about dairy products in conjunction with ‘behind the scenes’ promotion.

The ‘behind the scenes’ promotion included:

• ‘Encouragement’ of politicians to pass favourable laws for dairy farmers
• ‘Sponsorship’ of scientific research
• Advertisements in respectable scientific journals
• Organised conferences for influential people (food and wine provided), particularly for people who worked for the USDA

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Of course, all the promotion done by the dairy industry paid off, with the guide suggesting people to consume more dairy products and with the dairy group being placed at the top of the guide. It even recommended people to have at least four glasses of milk each day!

As soon as the guide came out the dairy associations and councils began promoting it to schools across the US.

The meat industry wasn’t happy with the fact that their food products were below the dairy group and thought that the recommendations to consume at least 2 serves a day of meat products was low. Then they discovered the power of lobbying and began using their massive financial powers to help promote their industry, just as the dairy industry had done before them.

USDA Food Pyramid History | Food Pyramid Diagram USDA
 
The Soviet Union Nor China would ban bring-to-school lunches.

You don't know that. "That", being whatever your incoherent sentence implies.
 
You don't know that. "That", being whatever your incoherent sentence implies.

Or it's more plausible you believe theyd rather have their students hungry by government decree.
Save the capitalization of the word 'nor' the sentence is fine. Sorry you have trouble reading it.
 
Or it's more plausible you believe theyd rather have their students hungry by government decree.
Save the capitalization of the word 'nor' the sentence is fine. Sorry you have trouble reading it.

Even more plausible that you obviously believe that China and the Soviet Union are, "free", countries because they might not have banned kids from brining their lunches to school.
 
Frankly, I never saw kids in China bringing lunches to school from home... just saying

But...but...you're like...from there. What the hell could you possibly know?!? :rofl
 
But...but...you're like...from there. What the hell could you possibly know?!? :rofl

Not from or in China now (live in Taiwan, currently), but I lived there for two years and did some volunteer work in schools while there... not once did I see a kid bringing a lunch from home...
 
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