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    61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    If a Euro-trash country can **** on Free Speech by enacting so-called hate speech laws then they can most certainly **** on freedom of religion and any other rights as well.


    61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Police on Saturday arrested 61 people _ including 19 women _ for attempting to hold an outlawed Paris protest against France's pending ban on face-covering Islamic veils, a top police official said.

    Fifty-nine people were detained while trying to demonstrate at Place de la Nation in eastern Paris, as were two others while traveling there from Britain and Belgium, said Nicolas Lerner, chief of staff for the Paris police chief.

    The arrests come amid in a rising, if small, groundswell of controversy over Monday's start of an official ban of garments that hide the face, which includes Muslim veils such as the slit-eyed niqab and the full face-covering burqa. Women who disobey the law risk a fine, special classes and a police record.

    The demonstrators rallied in defiance of a ban of the protest ordered Friday by Paris police on the ground that a Muslim group's call for the rally was "clearly an incitement to violence and racial hatred," said Lerner.

    "The demonstration was not banned because of the practice (among some Muslim women) of wearing veils, but because of the speech," he said, adding that Jewish groups and others had planned counter-protests _ raising the prospect of public disorder.

    Most of the would-be protesters were released after being taken to police stations, though six remained in custody _ mostly on suspicion of being in France illegally, Lerner said.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Yeah, what's next, preventing Muslims from building a place of worship they can call their own?

    Hey wait a minute.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yeah, what's next, preventing Muslims from building a place of worship they can call their own?

    Hey wait a minute.
    Is there a law that prevents Muslims from building a mosque? Sure there are angry people trying to blame 9-11 on all Muslims and trying to prevent them building a mosque near ground zero. But this is not the same thing as banning where a mosque can be built. They can still build a mosque near ground zero.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Is there a law that prevents Muslims from building a mosque? Sure there are angry people trying to blame 9-11 on all Muslims and trying to prevent them building a mosque near ground zero. But this is not the same thing as banning where a mosque can be built. They can still build a mosque near ground zero.
    Except when some of that "trying to prevent" stuff is done by trying to go through government channels for a ban.

    Really, though, the key issue is that religious freedom has to work on a personal level too. Supporting "religious freedom" while trying to prevent a mosque from being built is a bit hypocritical. This happens a lot in this country.
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Except when some of that "trying to prevent" stuff is done by trying to go through government channels for a ban.

    Really, though, the key issue is that religious freedom has to work on a personal level too. Supporting "religious freedom" while trying to prevent a mosque from being built is a bit hypocritical. This happens a lot in this country.
    If those who were trying to blame 9-11 on all Muslims were successful in getting a mosque banned, what do you think would happen to that law? It would have been struck down for the simple fact it would blatantly violate "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". While Euro-trash countries with their anti-speech and anti-religious laws would still have their idiotic so-called hate speech laws and anti-religious laws that ban Muslim women from having their face covered in public.

    Even posters posters here on DP who are trying to blame all Muslims for 9-11 would not agree to make it illegal.You do have to look to see how people voted in order to see the actual results because some people tried to cheat the polls.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...s-forward.html
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...you-agree.html
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Not surprised.

    This is France we are talking about.
    Well excited to see if they elect racists into Government
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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Does this law ban clowns too? 'cause under all the paint you can't tell who they are either. Hopefully it'll also ban mimes. Maybe of they just banned the French instead, it'd make the world a better place, just keep the people who make croissants and Brie.
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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Not surprised.

    This is France we are talking about.
    Well excited to see if they elect racists into Government
    Race is not the question here, it is the French culture and the idea of "Liberté, égalité, fraternité". Wearing coverings over the head while in public doesn't promote any of those ideals or values. Islam, as a pre-medieval religion, can learn a great deal from the French if it truly wants to carry out some reformations.

    If not, perhaps it is unwise for Muslims to emigrate to France.
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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    If France had only thought ahead, they could have only colonised Non Muslim countries...
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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    If France had only thought ahead, they could have only colonised Non Muslim countries...
    What does that have to do with this thread?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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