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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

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    modesty is a relative and highly interpretive term
    So in order for a woman to be "modest" she has to cover her head and body in swathes of black cloth? That is "highly interpretive" but makes no sense whatsoever. Talk to a few 'modest' women and I doubt they would interpret it this way. Or men for that matter.

    You're not making any sense. You cited the fact that Burqas are not mentioned in the constitution. And to point out how trite a remark that was, I highlighted the fact that neither is TV or Radio.
    TV and radio relate to transmissions of speech, which is mentioned in the Constitution. Burkas are not related to anything.

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    You suggested it when you drew the comparison
    You missed the point entirely, despite it being very straightforward. Read it again and of ou still don't understand I'll word it differently.


    1) I'm unsure when constitutional protections were limited to what you approved of

    2) in your example there is explicit harm being done. No such harm exists in someone wearing the burqa
    No, the risk exists for the woman in the form of NOT wearing the burka as demanded by her husband, and then wearing the burka while driving, for example. It is a dangerous and unnecessary garment symbolic only of a woman's servitude.

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

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    So in order for a woman to be "modest" she has to cover her head and body in swathes of black cloth? That is "highly interpretive" but makes no sense whatsoever. Talk to a few 'modest' women and I doubt they would interpret it this way. Or men for that matter.



    TV and radio relate to transmissions of speech, which is mentioned in the Constitution. Burkas are not related to anything.

    when did religion ever need to make sense? And yes, the Burqa is related to the free exercise of religion. Not sure why such a simple concept is giving you such trouble

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You missed the point entirely, despite it being very straightforward. Read it again and of ou still don't understand I'll word it differently.




    No, the risk exists for the woman in the form of NOT wearing the burka as demanded by her husband, and then wearing the burka while driving, for example. It is a dangerous and unnecessary garment symbolic only of a woman's servitude.
    you're assuming that she was demanded to wear it by her husband. In fact, I personally know people who choose to wear it due to their religious belief

    Also, I'm not seeing how a piece of clothing can be "dangerous"

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post

    Also, I'm not seeing how a piece of clothing can be "dangerous"
    Europe, Australia...hell, even parts of ME population *see* it differently than you

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Europe, Australia...hell, even parts of ME population *see* it differently than you

    you're making an appeal to popularity, which doesn't speak to the actual validity of the idea

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    you're assuming that she was demanded to wear it by her husband. In fact, I personally know people who choose to wear it due to their religious belief
    Again, it is not a matter of religion.
    Also, I'm not seeing how a piece of clothing can be "dangerous"
    It can when you are driving a vehicle, and disguises can also be used in robberies.

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    you're making an appeal to popularity, which doesn't speak to the actual validity of the idea
    Popularity translates into votes, right?

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Well might as well ban everything that covers your face all the time.

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    Re: 61 arrested over banned Paris Muslim veil protest

    Bravo, Europe. Bravo. Islam must go.

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