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    Re: Boehner, Obama Remarks on Budget Deal

    Who cares if we have unfunded liabilities set in the future? There is plenty of time to adjust stuff yet.

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    Re: Boehner, Obama Remarks on Budget Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Who cares if we have unfunded liabilities set in the future? There is plenty of time to adjust stuff yet.
    "the future" in which social security pays out more than it takes in started last year.

    welcome to The Future.


    we do have plenty of time.


    specifically, on our current path, we probably have about 5 years before we will be past the tipping point. assuming our creditors like us and are nice to us.

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    Re: Boehner, Obama Remarks on Budget Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Those funded and unfunded liabilities you mentioned are both backed by the same thing, though. The US treasury. Nothing is "allocated" until it's actually paid. Because whose to say the "allocated" funds will actually exist when the time comes?
    Nothing is allocated until it's actually paid?
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    Re: Boehner, Obama Remarks on Budget Deal

    yes. that's why there is no such thing as "earmarked funds" ?

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    Re: Boehner, Obama Remarks on Budget Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    This is your response?

    Your beloved government, which can do no wrong in your eyes unless it's defending the nation, you're now saying it's wrong when it projects the liability people ALIVE TODAY will have to pay if no actions are taken to alter the course of events? You're claiming that's an irrational baseless extrapolation?

    And...you're one of the people crapping their pants over the ridiculous claims by the IPCC about global warming, too.

    The Mayor supposes that you only accept extrapolations when they promote your world view. The truth means nothing to you, apparently.
    Literally everything you just speculated about me is wrong. I talk about bad things my government is doing constantly. I've repeatedly said that Obama is not substantially different from Bush. Wasn't a fan of Bush.

    I'm not "crapping my pants" about anything, and the IPCC's "ridiculous claims" usually turn out to be made up by climate "skeptics" so that they have something to attack. (or are journalists who just have no idea what they're talking about)

    You want to talk about extrapolations? Look at your own post, my friend. I didn't even say that medicare/SS wasn't even a problem. I've also repeatedly said that "fiscal responsibility" without taking cuts to medicare, social security, and defense is just impossible. All this talk about "non-defense discretionary spending" is just little morsels of a very big pie that politicians can point to in order to convince the public that they're actually doing something.

    So why don't you go ahead and just forget anything you think you know about my opinion, because you have just about all of it wrong. This is the biggest annoyance I have with conservatives: absolutism. Mention that maybe Israel should go easier on the Palestinian civilians? OMG YOU SUPPORT TERRORISTS. Think we should make a strong push towards renewable energy? YOU WANT TO CONTROL EVERYTHING WE DO AND USE AND ALSO WANT US TO BE IN THE STONE AGE AGAIN. It's absurd.
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    Re: Boehner, Obama Remarks on Budget Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yes. that's why there is no such thing as "earmarked funds" ?
    Oh I see, I think.
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    Re: Boehner, Obama Remarks on Budget Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Oh I see, I think.
    good.

    you can explain it to me, then.

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    Re: Boehner, Obama Remarks on Budget Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    "the future" in which social security pays out more than it takes in started last year.

    welcome to The Future.


    we do have plenty of time.


    specifically, on our current path, we probably have about 5 years before we will be past the tipping point. assuming our creditors like us and are nice to us.
    Then we either raise funds or we alter the payment structure

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    Re: Boehner, Obama Remarks on Budget Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Then we either raise funds or we alter the payment structure
    yes. that's what Republicans are trying to do. So far the Democrats response has been to deny there is a problem; but hopefully that changes this wednesday.

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    Re: Boehner, Obama Remarks on Budget Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Literally everything you just speculated about me is wrong. I talk about bad things my government is doing constantly. I've repeatedly said that Obama is not substantially different from Bush. Wasn't a fan of Bush.
    The Mayor recognizes that Bush was a major leftist, too. Why you disapprove of Bush can only be explained by arrrrrrophobia, the irrational fear of the letter (R).

    I'm not "crapping my pants" about anything, and the IPCC's "ridiculous claims" usually turn out to be made up by climate "skeptics" so that they have something to attack. (or are journalists who just have no idea what they're talking about)
    You mean like it's absurb claims about sea level rise? How about it's use of a hiker's magazine as it's sole evidentiary source for alleged Himalayan glaciar decline? Then there's it's absurb Hockey Stick chart, since proven to be based on hoaxed evidence.

    You want to talk about extrapolations? Look at your own post, my friend. I didn't even saythat medicare/SS wasn't even a problem. I've also repeatedly said that "fiscal responsibility" without taking cuts to medicare, social security, and defense is just impossible. All this talk about "non-defense discretionary spending" is just little morsels of a very big pie that politicians can point to in order to convince the public that they're actually doing something.
    "Taking cuts" sounds like a little bit of a manicure. What's needed is a backhoe digging out the roots of Social Security, Medicare, and Education, to name the three biggest unconstitutional programs currently destroying the nation's fiscal future.

    So why don't you go ahead and just forget anything you think you know about my opinion, because you have just about all of it wrong. This is the biggest annoyance I have with conservatives: absolutism. Mention that maybe Israel should go easier on the Palestinian civilians? OMG YOU SUPPORT TERRORISTS.
    You are, of course, referring to the "civillians" who aid the Hamas terrorists who lob rockets into Israeli population centers, and then run away and hide. Or, perhaps you're referring to the civillians that use their own children as bomb carriers?

    Think we should make a strong push towards renewable energy? YOU WANT TO CONTROL EVERYTHING WE DO AND USE AND ALSO WANT US TO BE IN THE STONE AGE AGAIN. It's absurd.
    No. The Mayor doesn't say that. The Mayor says the fascists pushing this agenda are damaging any realistic chances the nation has towards a legitimately useful energy policy because their ideology prevents them from taking their heads out of their asses. And yes, the alternative to drilling oil and gas, digging coal, and burning uranium is to freeze to death in the dark. Not one of the so-called "alternatives" have any widespread practicality.

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